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The Watch Appreciation Thread - Part two (Rolex, Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, Jaeger LeCoultre,

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mimo, Feb 12, 2016.

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  1. Keith T

    Keith T Senior member

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    Me likey! Will probably consider a trade-in / trade-up on my current 214270 model, to be honest.

    But I have also really liked the Explorer II ever since it was released a few years ago.

    Suffice it to say, I've got the Rolex fever really bad today LOL.

    As dino is wise to point out, we will obviously need to wait and see what these look like in the metal / on the wrist ... and that's gonna be a while.
     
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    Steel28 Senior member

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    A few more :)

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  3. Omega Male

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    Nice! Liking the black more than I thought I would.

    London boutique is getting the 116500 Daytonas in to view for one day only on May 11 and they will be prototypes not production pieces. Can't see many shipping before the Summer. Manager said the store went "berserk" today.
     
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    Two things jump out at me. First - on the new explorer I don't like how the lume of the hands overlaps the lume of the hour indices. One of the details I appreciated from the short-hand explorer was that the lume of the minute hand goes just to the edge of the indices. I assumed that was intentional as was the choice of hand length but I guess I assumed too much. I don't have an issue with the new bigger hands (longer + wider) but think it would look better without the overlap. I'm still not sold on the 3/6/9 lume - thought that it had just the right amount of daytime bling. Would I trade my explorer straight up for a new one? Sure. But I don't think I would part with extra money for it and thanks to @SteveH35 I got a pretty nice price on my explorer.

    On the new Daytona - I was hoping Rolex would do something cool like a grey or silver ceramic bezel to maintain the current look. I've always liked the white dial more and do think the new white dial with black registers and bezel looks great, but it's certainly more in your face than the last daytona. I'm a little surprised they didn't go white subdials on the black daytona. I haven't had much interest in the black dial version because black dials are ubiquitous in sport rolexes (and I have a speedy) but now even less so. People often said they black and white dial versions sell in equal numbers but I have a hard time believing that would be the case going forward. They should have done something else with it to make it special.
     
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    So they DID unleash the panda. [​IMG]

    Never have been a big fan of the Daytona. But I think I'm coming around.
     
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    The updated Daytona-C means it will still be a while before I ever see a SS Daytona in the flesh at a store. The closest I have come is two-tone which is not my thing but everrose is quite nice.

    Tudor BB 36mm is only $2,900 on bracelet. That seems like a steal.
     
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    I may or may not already be in line for the new Daytona.

    Just sayin.
     
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    The alternating number sizes and 5,10, 3 seems a bit weird. In photos I don't mind the green hand and yellow crown. Although, the bright colors might make it less appealing to wear with a suit for business meetings. As for reserving 3,6, and 9 for Explorers...they have used them on Air King dials in the past, and I believe some OP dials too.

    I wonder if the prototypes will have movements in them? Granted, the movement hasn't changed, but at a few watch events I've attended, when they had prototypes to view the size and look of it in person, they were not equipped with movements.

    As for the Explorer, I suppose in addition to added legibility, it harks back to the days of ref 1016 (and earlier), when the 3,6, and 9 of Explorer's had lum.

    Regarding Daytonas, in the 1990s it was rumored more white dials were made than black. Not sure if that is accurate, but also in some markets black was considered more desirable (for example in the 1990s, people in Japan would pay more to get a black dial than white). In other markets people seemed to favor white. In the end it all balances out. If going forward Rolex were to see higher demand for more white dials, I suppose they could shift production that way...but give that 20 plus years and the less desired model that didn't sell so well, could be the hot vintage item of the future (which seems to be a theme with Rolex).
     
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    Only for the bronze, not for the steel.
     
  11. mimo

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    (I was teasing about the new Daytona)
     
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    Always appreciate the amount of context you contribute, Dino. It's invaluable! Thanks.
     
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    Ditto. Following in da man's footsteps.
     
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    Get in line, get in line, get in line!

    Predictions on whether Rolex dribbles these out as per steel Daytona tradition, or actually tries to satisfy demand? If there was ever a stone cold cert worth ramping up for ...
     
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    Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad it was of interest. [​IMG]

    Meeting demand is a relative thing with Rolex. If you are referring to the kind of low supplies of the 1990s, I doubt it. Back then they were partially limited by how many El Primero ebauches they could get and modify, and then on top of that the profit margin was better for them on the tutones and all gold...so that led to significantly fewer steel Daytonas being made than were necessary to meet the demand. Some places had 3-5 year waiting lists. It was insane!

    Many believe demand did increase with them bringing production of the movements totally in house with the 116520. I tend to believe that also. I think 10 years ago the longest waiting list I heard of was down to about a year (at least in the US), and even then a few extra SS Daytonas a year made some of those lists move even faster. Traditionally, with the release of new Rolex models it takes a year or two for supply to catch up with demand. I think even after a year or two they won't be as easy to obtain as say an Explorer II, Sub, or GMT. However, I doubt we will go back to the ridiculously low supply in the 1990s, as it didn't benefit Rolex in terms of sales, it annoyed customers, and it led to some ADs selling their Daytonas out the back door to gray dealers who were selling them for double the retail, which again didn't benefit Rolex. Anyway, just my 2 cents.
     
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  17. Keith T

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    Undoubtedly you'll get one first.

    Bastard. :D



    Preeeettttttyyyy hot. Even with the day-counter placement.

    Gorgeous dial color, IMO.
     
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    Yeah I don't love that counter placement. But the dial color and numerals :satisfied:
     
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    Patek does breguet numerals better than most. Beautiful.
     
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    Now THIS, I really like.

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