Well as I mentioned earlier I like the numbered edition Speedmaster and everything your post says basically applies to it. Were I to get one I certainly wouldn't expect it to appreciate in value, but at the discounted price I'm seeing I would expect it to hold it's value. Of course if it didn't I feel strongly enough that I would still love the watch considering how many different photos of Speedmaster references I've seen. Ah, but I never said anyone said it's the worst option. I was simply saying there are worse options out there, though depending on the scope of your gaze probably even more better options. Fair enough on the rest and I agree. I think I was just struck at some of the commentary as I personally hadn't seen or noticed it's like here before. Were the the watch a Rolex and there were a lot of "Omega fans" saying the same I'd surely have posted the same. Anyway, no offense to you or anyone else. My apologies. Let me first say that I'm definitely painting with broad strokes. That said I was very specifically referring to aesthetics in one way or another. As regards the Saxonia, I'd say that at looking at both watches that they are both of a similar style. The hour markers, minute markers and general face are pretty similar. You've also got the sub dials, which of course have their differences, but when you compare the faces they're pretty similar. Sure you've got different hands and the different text/font, but apart from that they are similar in appearance. And that was all I was saying. You could also add other watches that have this "style" if you ask me. All of that said, of course there are other major differences such as materials, case thickness, lugs, crowns, movement, finishing, etc that set the watches apart. However my post clearly states that I was comparing the watches in terms of how they look and I very clearly noted they look "similar" for the reasons I just stated. Also, I in no way compared the Orion to the 1815 nor does my post suggest I did. I clearly and simply was referring to the differences in price, my budget and my wanting an 1815. My Swatch reference goes back to my perception of Swatch back in the 80s along with my somewhat my perception of Nomos now as they compared to other watches out there. For me they both occupy/occupied a space that was different than other watches as both were for the most part at the "lower end" of the spectrum in terms of price yet distinctive in terms of style. Of course there are a myriad of differences. And let me be clear here, I mean that as no slight to Nomos and again I actually like Nomos. Specifically to your point, I can see where you're coming from, but still for me the Tangomat, Club, Ludwig and Zurich all still have a "fashion" element to them. I hate to use that word, but "style" is an entirely different (yes, Nomos have a style as well) and would be too broad. Of course that doesn't mean that they aren't also something else, but with the distinctive looks of many of the Nomos watches they are very "fashionable." I could also say "artistic", but you could say that about a myriad of other watch brands and I felt "fashionable" was a more apt descriptor. And for me the Metro is their most typical example as of nearly all the models that Nomos make it is the one that I find the least like other watches out there for multiple reasons. I would take back the part about it being a distinctive GMT as it's part down to appearance. however it for me definitely looks less "Nomos" than the majority of their other collections. Wow, you move fast. I was eyeing up your Metro at the time. I remember it based on that photo and the strap.