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I'm very interested in this as well and plan to buy one once they are finally released. People on WUS are saying they've spoken with Cartier customer service, and their official word is that there is a supply chain issue and it may be another couple of months before it is available in the US, although apparently it is available already in Europe.
I saw one at an AD a month or 2 ago in Houston. It was part of their first shipment they received.
 

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I saw one at an AD a month or 2 ago in Houston.
Wow, really? I think even Cartier's original announcement from back in April said that they'd be shipping starting in September. Interesting.

Did you try it on or look at it up close? If so, anything of interest to report?
 

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It's basically a standard Tank. I couldn't tell the difference between the Solar Beat vs the standard quartz.
 

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The dual-time is so so so good...I want this really bad.

The comical part is that they're only making 150 of each. I'll wager that all 150 of each were spoken for within minutes of the announcement; VC dealers and boutiques likely already have these set aside for special clients and unfortunately, flippers.
 

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The comical part is that they're only making 150 of each. I'll wager that all 150 of each were spoken for within minutes of the announcement; VC dealers and boutiques likely already have these set aside for special clients and unfortunately, flippers.
Yeah, based on the comments on Hodinkee that's exactly the case, which sucks.
 

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A question about customs forms for shipment via DHL -

I have a watch incoming to the US from abroad which is being shipped by DHL. I got a text to say it’s on the way. Then I got a text with a form attached for me to complete, estimating the separate values of movement, case, strap and battery / automatic / windup.

I’m assuming that this is so they can calculate how much to sting me for on import duties. Does anyone have experience of this and if so, any advice on how to complete the form. Value of the entire watch (lightly used) is of course flexible but how on earth would you separate the value of the case from the movement?

Even the overall value? This detailed at around $6800 but on the used market I e seen them range from around 3500 to 6000 so it’s not even easy to estimate the ‘actual’ value of a lightly used watch (as opposed to what I paid). I am waiting to hear back from the seller if he specified a $$ value when he shipped and insured.

Anyone know even roughly their formula, ie if a watch is declared at a total value of $5k they’ll charge me 10 percent = $500 or something?

Advice / thoughts / experiences most welcome. Thanks.
 
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A question about customs forms for shipment via DHL -

I have a watch incoming to the US from abroad which is being shipped by DHL. I got a text to say it’s on the way. Then I got a text with a form attached for me to complete, estimating the separate values of movement, case, strap and battery / automatic / windup.

I’m assuming that this is so they can calculate how much to sting me for on import duties. Does anyone have experience of this and if so, any advice on how to complete the form. Value of the entire watch (lightly used) is of course flexible but how on earth would you separate the value of the case from the movement?

Even the overall value? This detailed at around $6800 but on the used market I e seen them range from around 3500 to 6000 so it’s not even easy to estimate the ‘actual’ value of a lightly used watch (as opposed to what I paid). I am waiting to hear back from the seller if he specified a $$ value when he shipped and insured.

Anyone know even roughly their formula, ie if a watch is declared at a total value of $5k they’ll charge me 10 percent = $500 or something?

Advice / thoughts / experiences most welcome. Thanks.
I reached out to DHL about how taxes were calculated when I considered ordering a watch from an AD in Europe and none of the people I talked to could be me a straight answer...and based upon that I decided to scratch that idea, since it could amount to a couple extra grand based upon how the calculations went...
 

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Value of the entire watch (lightly used) is of course flexible but how on earth would you separate the value of the case from the movement?
Buying something shouldn’t be this complicated.

Not a lawyer or accountant, but if I had to guess this is probably so no one sends a platinum watch with a diamond bezel with a sales receipt of $250...basically its asking you to parse out the value of the items to see if they individually are worth significantly more than the amount on the invoice to stop people cheating the system.

I'd ask the AD for a breakdown, or maybe just send along a number of comps form Chrono24 or whatever...
 

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The comical part is that they're only making 150 of each. I'll wager that all 150 of each were spoken for within minutes of the announcement; VC dealers and boutiques likely already have these set aside for special clients and unfortunately, flippers.
100% agree, good think that I just can't seem to like the overseas line. I do like a bunch of the classic dress watches but then I feel like ALS and PP make better them better.
 

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Ah, did you buy from a personal seller and/or a small dealer? I had to do this too from a small dealer in Belgium, and in the end, just winged it. However, it's extremely important that you have the exact number that the seller put down as the value, or else it will get stuck in customs for a long while. I don't remember how much extra I paid. It was in the same ballpark as your watch, and I think that it was closer to 5%, but apparently, I've blocked it out of my mind.
it’s not a lot, and in the past I’ve just guessed at the numbers. Nobody cares; it’s just bureaucrats collecting paper so they can preserve their pathetic low value jobs.
 

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A question about customs forms for shipment via DHL -

I have a watch incoming to the US from abroad which is being shipped by DHL. I got a text to say it’s on the way. Then I got a text with a form attached for me to complete, estimating the separate values of movement, case, strap and battery / automatic / windup.

I’m assuming that this is so they can calculate how much to sting me for on import duties. Does anyone have experience of this and if so, any advice on how to complete the form. Value of the entire watch (lightly used) is of course flexible but how on earth would you separate the value of the case from the movement?

Even the overall value? This detailed at around $6800 but on the used market I e seen them range from around 3500 to 6000 so it’s not even easy to estimate the ‘actual’ value of a lightly used watch (as opposed to what I paid). I am waiting to hear back from the seller if he specified a $$ value when he shipped and insured.

Anyone know even roughly their formula, ie if a watch is declared at a total value of $5k they’ll charge me 10 percent = $500 or something?

Advice / thoughts / experiences most welcome. Thanks.
I'm just a lurker on this thread but I think this might be helpful.



Movement is very low tax. So if the most of value can be attributed to the movement, they your tax will be very low.

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This is only info that I read in a couple places and not something I have experience.
 

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