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Can you get a Seamaster 300 for $5k? If so, that's a hard choice to pass up.

Is your wrist big enough for a Longines Legend Diver? That's a good looking watch and a damn fine value prop. Lugs are so darn long though.
I thought I wanted a Longines Legend Diver until I tried one on. Those lugs! And also thought it looked kind of cheap quality-wise next to the Oris I tried on that same day.

Speaking of Longines...today's choice.

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I've always loved this one. Nice watch.
 

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I think that's part of it. They forget to say they want an inexpensive conservative, well-proportioned dress watch. I think the MUT Moon is one of the most beautiful dress watches out there, if not the most beautiful to my eyes....I just went to their website to look at them again, and did they recently change the case size? I swear I thought they were all 40mm. Now the website shows 36mm and 39mm versions.

+1 to Oris. Are you looking at more "luxury" style divers or more chunky/"toolish" style? Vintage inspired?
I am pretty sure the MUT Moon has always been 39mm. Which is the perfect size for me.

I am not even necessarily sure that I want a diver. I am really craving something with water resistance, that is fun. My rotation right now is the MUT Moon, which is not fun, and the Speedmaster, which I love but is also not that fun.

I agree that the BB58 is the clear choice here. A quick check of Chrono24 indicates that it sells for well below $5K.
The BB58 is damn fine. Probably where I am leaning.

I like and respect JLC, and my dad has a nice Master Antoine limited edition. But I find some of their designs are so sterile looking, than they don't make a strong enough impression to get people past the trying on stage. I know the MUT is well liked here, and not to annoy owners...but it just doesn't do anything for me. Until one gets to some of the pieces with more substantial looking cases they just don't excite me, and I do wish they would change the font for their Arabic numerals. The Geographic and the old Master Hometime were a few exceptions that I really liked. However, I'm still more in love with their Reverso's than their offerings from the Master series.

Over the years I've owned 4 dive watches. 1 Omega Seamaster, and 3 Subs. 3 of the 4 watches I traded for a Rolex (or another Rolex) in 2 years or less. The only one I've kept is my 2005 Kermit Submariner. I like how it looks and wears. However, I generally find a GMT function more useful than additional water resistance. So at this point I still have my '05 Sub and 3 GMT function watches, and I'm on a waiting list for a Pepsi GMT if that order ever gets filled ;):rotflmao:
I completely understand what you are saying about JLC, and particularly the MUT. It is not very exciting. But I do find myself grabbing it the vast majority of the time.

And there is no question that the Reverso is a gorgeous watch.

Both are nice, but I'm not a fan of the white dial on the Seamaster. I like it a far more with a dark dial. The BB is a nice watch too, and that would be my choice over the white Seamaster, partially because of the dial.

As for the no-date Sub, I get that you aren't thrilled with the price...I can see that being a sticking point for many people (I wish they were less expensive there days). As for the lots of friends wanting or having them, personally I never have an issue with that. I've joked and said many times, if I walk into a room and I'm wearing mine, and someone else is wearing his Sub...I think to myself..."Damn, that guy has good taste!" ;) :rotflmao: In terms of design, its largely the basis for design derivatives from a variety of other brands. The design has evolved, but I still feel its the original and the piece that most other dive watches are measured by, and a watch that looks great regardless of which generation one chooses (something that can't always be said about past offerings from competitors).
My issue with the Sub is not the cost, necessarily (although it is pricey). My issue really comes down to how identifiable it is. To me, the Sub telegraphs that someone spent $10,000 on what is adorning their wrist. I kind of prefer to fly under the radar.

I'm sure I'll get a Sub at some point. Although I am more drawn towards the Explorer. However, I think that is something that my wife would like to buy me, so I am holding off.

Both are great watches, but also pretty different (within the dive watch genre). The new Omega's look great, but they are 42mm and thick and have gone for much more of a tool watch vibe. The BB58 is 40 mm, thinner and relatively dressier (for a dive watch). I'll also add that, as much as I like that white dial SMP on a strap, it's just okay on the bracelet. The black dial version is pretty sharp, though, on both bracelet and rubber strap.
Yeah, I am definitely interested in watches in different categories. In addition to the BB58 and Seamaster, I'm also pretty interested in the Santos, the H08, and the Bulgari OF (although I want to try the OF). In short, I'm kind of all over the map.
 

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I like and respect JLC ... but I find some of their designs are so sterile looking ...
I get that. In terms of the exterior design aesthetics the JLC Master series strikes me as sharp and hard-edged. In contrast my PP dress watches are soft and fanciful ... downright romantic.

I once talked about how I wear Huntsman and Richard Anderson for work and Anderson & Sheppard for dinner parties and evenings out. I treat watches similarly ... and at times the architect in me craves that clinical crispness. Although late in my career I produced very traditional residences that played on the Arts & Crafts movement ... in my early days I spent time with a NY firm that had been described by Tom Wolfe as creating houses with all the charm of an insecticide factory. I'm sure a shrink could have a field day with that range.
 
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I get that. In terms of the exterior design aesthetics the JLC Master series strikes me as sharp and hard-edged. In contrast my PP dress watches are soft and fanciful ... downright romantic.

I once talked about how I wear Huntsman and Richard Anderson for work and Anderson & Sheppard for dinner parties and evenings out. I treat watches similarly ... and at times the architect in me craves that clinical crispness. Although late in my career I produced very traditional residences that played on the Arts & Crafts movement ... in my early days I spent time with a NY firm that had been described by Tom Wolfe as creating houses that looked like insecticide factories. I'm sure a shrink could have a field day with that range.
Your suit analogy is an great way to describe your choice of watches . It certainly makes sense. There are certainly are a few pieces in the Master collection that speak to me and I could wear and enjoy owning (Geographic, Hometime, and some Master Antoines). Still, I'm more drawn to the Reversos, which are a completely different style. I guess my taste in dress watches tends to be something a bit more romantic or whimsical. So in the past I was more interested in pieces from VC. In addition, the few dress watches I have are not round. I have several round steel sports watches that get lots of wear. However if I'm going to dress up or go out for a nice dinner, I like something that is totally different, in terms of color and shape so they are gold and not round. Sort of like going from wearing sneakers on weekends to putting on a pair of EGs for dinner or an evening out. Certainly not everyone's taste, but they speak to me...and a Reverso is more akin to them than most Master Series pieces, so that may be why it is a piece I'm most likely to add from JLC at some point.





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I like the new SJX collab with Habring:

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Ive always had a soft spot for Habring.
 

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