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(right...did you catch the part where I said at a "deep discount"?)
bro.....$12K is the most I'd pay for that watch so I'm not sure what target price you have in mind. As stated by others, buy what you like and enjoy it. Although, it seems like you are looking to justify the purchase by gaining consensus from other members here - also a bad reason to but a watch (expensive or otherwise).

good luck!
 

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I mean he could have been a bit more tactful, but even under the "different strokes for different folks" line of philosophy of buy what you like, I don't disagree...
Yeah, I hear you. My point was that the "I don't like it...do you like?" responses are fine, but that type of response certainly doesn't indicate the boundaries for "thoughts" on a watch...The "well do you like?" advice is kind of assumed (no?).
 

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Well, you see, this is kind of a watch thread, so just as a basic premise posting a watch and asking for thoughts on that watch is basically the prime function - especially since the comments are not meant to be constrained to "what you like" but rather: have you seen the watch in real life? have you put one on? how does the bracelet feel. how does the dial catch light? How does the rose gold compare to other brands? etc...
It’s not a good looking watch ... way too much ornamentation and flim-flam. But obviously, it attracted you for some reason. Why?

I think it might have been said already, but the universe of prime, all-gold (case + bracelet) watches is very small. Really, it comes down to a Rolex, Royal Oak, or Nautilus. These are watches that were designed solely to be worn on a bracelet and where the bracelet is integral to the overall design. Most other gold watches were primarily designed to be worn on a strap—a bracelet tends to look like an afterthought.

Also, part of the appeal of an all-gold watch is the “fuck you” factor. How can it not be? You need to start with a sportier, chunkier base model to make this work. A gold Calatrava or Tank LC on a gold rice bead bracelet is the exact opposite of what I’d aim for.

Gold Speedmaster is okay-ish. It looks good, but I think bang-for-buck, egalitarian value is core to the Speedy’s appeal. I suppose you could argue making it in gold would be a statement in irony, but it’s not a statement anyone is likely to get. I personally don’t care about the statement it makes, but I do consider it somewhat incongruent from a design/concept perspective. For all that makes the Speedy great, it is not an apex watch—you could spend more on a nicer, similarly functioning watch before upgrading to precious metal. Gold Daytona would be a better pick.
 

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bro.....$12K is the most I'd pay for that watch so I'm not sure what target price you have in mind. As stated by others, buy what you like and enjoy it. Although, it seems like you are looking to justify the purchase by gaining consensus from other members here - also a bad reason to but a watch (expensive or otherwise).

good luck!
Honestly not looking for consensus (though I believe that's what has been delivered) to justify anything. Was genuinely curious what people knew about the watch in addition to the general-impression responses...
 

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It’s not a good looking watch ... way too much ornamentation and flim-flam. But obviously, it attracted you for some reason. Why?

I think it might have been said already, but the universe of prime, all-gold (case + bracelet) watches is very small. Really, it comes down to a Rolex, Royal Oak, or Nautilus. These are watches that were designed solely to be worn on a bracelet and where the bracelet is integral to the overall design. Most other gold watches were primarily designed to be worn on a strap—a bracelet tends to look like an afterthought.

Also, part of the appeal of an all-gold watch is the “fuck you” factor. How can it not be? You need to start with a sportier, chunkier base model to make this work. A gold Calatrava or Tank LC on a gold rice bead bracelet is the exact opposite of what I’d aim for.
1. " it attracted you for some reason. Why?"
The size, dial, integrated bracelet (but I have never seen in personal) and anonymity.

2. "Rolex, Royal Oak, or Nautilus."
Right. I guess I'm trying to test this thesis, but I think you are probably correct.

3. "How can it not be?"
I mainly want gold for the color variety (for how it will function as an accessory), but agree that I'm in a sort of no-man's land in terms of what I'm trying to "say" with the full gold. I do need to work this aspect out...
 

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Honestly not looking for consensus (though I believe that's what has been delivered) to justify anything. Was genuinely curious what people knew about the watch in addition to the general-impression responses...
your posts don't come across this way, FYI.

Shoulda bought the gold DD and be done with it.......
 

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1. " it attracted you for some reason. Why?"
The size, dial and integrated bracelet (but I have never seen in personal) and anonymity.

2. "Rolex, Royal Oak, or Nautilus."
Right. I guess I'm trying to test this thesis, but I think you are probably correct.

3. "How can it not be?"
I mainly want gold for the color variety (for how it will function as an accessory), but agree that I'm in a sort of no-man's land in terms of what I'm trying to "say" with the full gold. I do need to work this aspect out...
If one cares about about anonymity, one would be wise to avoid wearing an all-gold watch. Personally, I could not care less about anonymity insofar as aesthetics go, but I also drive a neon blue car so take that as you will.

As for functioning as an accessory—keep in mind that an all-gold watch will always be loud and so the design should embrace this fact, not strain in the opposite direction. Forget what it “says”. You are better off not getting mired in such social tedium. Just try to maintain a coherent concept.

That last part is what will likely pull you back to the Day-Date. If is very arguably the most iconic and essential all-gold watch in existence. The genre wouldn’t even exist without it. It is awesome. Don’t hold its awesomeness against it.
 

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All gold Cartier Santos looks much better than the all gold Constellation. I'd get that over the Omega Constellation.

I just don't think the Constellations look good in all gold. They look much better in two tone.
 

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If one cares about about anonymity, one would be wise to avoid wearing an all-gold watch. Personally, I could not care less about anonymity insofar as aesthetics go, but I also drive a neon turquoise car so take that as you will.

As for functioning as an accessory—keep in mind that an all-gold watch will always be loud and so the design should embrace this fact, not strain in the opposite direction. Forget what it “says”. You are better off not getting mired in such social tedium. Just try to maintain a coherent concept.
This is definitely the contradiction I'm trying to work out. I guess, in my mind, the "pure" aesthetics might become apparent [to others...I feel I'm able to mute my relationships to brands rather flexibly] if the watch is decoupled from salient branding. Unfortunately, the brand-stigmatized watches just have the best designs by a long shot...I know this trip ends with a DD or a rose gold GMT, but I'm fighting that impulse for some reason...
 

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This is definitely the contradiction I'm trying to work out. I guess, in my mind, the "pure" aesthetics might become apparent [to others...I feel I'm able to mute my relationships to brands rather flexibly] if the watch is decoupled from salient branding. Unfortunately, the brand-stigmatized watches just have the best designs by a long shot...I know this trip ends with a DD or a rose gold GMT, but I'm fighting that impulse for some reason...
Again, who cares about “brand stigma”? Honestly, the sort of people who would hold it against me for wearing a Day-Date or Royal Oak are also the sort of people I’d like to avoid. Perfect. Flash my watch, clear the room of social irritants.

If you already have conviction in what the “best designs” are and can afford them, live your life the way you want and buy one. Life is too short to spend $30K+ on a watch for the sake of not offending other people whose opinions you shouldn’t give a flying fuck about in the first place.
 

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Again, who cares about “brand stigma”? Honestly, the sort of people who would hold it against me for wearing a Day-Date or Royal Oak are also the sort of people I’d like to avoid. Perfect. Flash my watch, clear the room of social irritants.

If you already have conviction in what the “best designs” are and can afford them, live your life the way you want and buy one. Life is too short to spend $30K+ on a watch for the sake of not offending other people whose opinions shouldn’t give a flying fuck about in the first place.
I understand. It's odd, though...It's not so much that I care about what people think of me (I think I'm a confident fellow), but I am (for better or worse) sensitive to how I might make others feel uncomfortable with my appearance (to a degree). I know this will be a wildly unpopular opinion, but It's hard for me to just say "fuck it...I love this thing...I'm going for it" if I think it will generate something other than directed-at-me negativity ...Again...I think you've sort of hit at exactly what my hang up is...just need to ruminate more...
 
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Yep, the newest member of Zenith's Revival series is the A3817. I dearly love the A385 because I own the vintage version, but I think the A3817 is the one to get if you're interested in this line.
 

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