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Ambulance Chaser

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Are there any watches other than SS sports Rolex/RO/Nautilus that are currently selling for well above MSRP? As others have mentioned, buyers, particularly ones getting into watches for the first time, are likely to substitute other brands when they can't get a Rolex, be it Tudor, Zenith, or Omega. Seems like a missed opportunity for Rolex to make customers for life.
 

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Yep. But are used car dealers selling among themselves to drive up the prices further? I get the feeling that market is grounded more conventionally on supply and demand. There’s some weirder shit going on with the watch market. But yes to your point...
afaik new car dealers are buying used cars to plump inventory so yes demand is competitive rn
 

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Are there any watches other than SS sports Rolex/RO/Nautilus that are currently selling for well above MSRP? As others have mentioned, buyers, particularly ones getting into watches for the first time, are likely to substitute other brands when they can't get a Rolex, be it Tudor, Zenith, or Omega. Seems like a missed opportunity for Rolex to make customers for life.
Pre-covid, but I was BS’ing with an AD one day and he told me 90% of people who walked in trying to buy a SS Rolex walked out with nothing and didn’t even want to look at other brands.
 

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Are there any watches other than SS sports Rolex/RO/Nautilus that are currently selling for well above MSRP? As others have mentioned, buyers, particularly ones getting into watches for the first time, are likely to substitute other brands when they can't get a Rolex, be it Tudor, Zenith, or Omega. Seems like a missed opportunity for Rolex to make customers for life.
Rather than watches trading at a 2x or 3x premium, there do seem to be a few more watches, like the Zenith or some Tudors/Omegas, that are not losing value, which is kind of a new thing.
 

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Similar to what's happening with used cars. New supply is severely constrained, so preowned prices go up pretty much across the board.
My BIL just sold one of his childhood Pokémon cards for $4K. It’s pretty wild out there for ‘collectibles’ regardless of things like production crunches, etc.
 

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Are there any watches other than SS sports Rolex/RO/Nautilus that are currently selling for well above MSRP? As others have mentioned, buyers, particularly ones getting into watches for the first time, are likely to substitute other brands when they can't get a Rolex, be it Tudor, Zenith, or Omega. Seems like a missed opportunity for Rolex to make customers for life.
Omega Speedmasters are doing really well. The 3 Snoopies, Tintin, and Speedy Tuesday’s are selling well above MSRB. Snoopy 2 sells for more than a Daytona.
 

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Preowned prices have gone up a lot recently on the more-desirable Langes. FP Journe also had a big pop driven by Govberg/Watchbox (allegedly) trying to corner the market.
 

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16710s from the 80s going for 15k? I mean, this is absurd...

That’s a 5k watch - 10k at the very, very most...good grief!
You can buy one at around £9k in the U.K. and our prices are consistently higher than the US. Sure people are listing for £12k and up but I doubt many are biting. Similarly with the Sea Dweller I bought recently, prices are well up on a year or so ago, but it’s the watches at the lower end of the range that are selling, not the ones £2k higher.

There is going to be a consistent market for both models - their modern replacements are a totally different aesthetic - and I can’t see them going down any time soon, as sensibly priced examples are selling quickly, but some of the pricing at the moment seems months, if not years ahead of itself.
 

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It seems like prices for all watches have increased above the board. I like following auctions and have been watching CPCP Monopoussoir prices for a while. The below hammered for over $75k, before buyer‘s premium! That same watch was selling for less than $10k five years ago.

So which one of you ballers bought it? ;)

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I missed this - what did they do?

Is this the reason Journe is going boutique
They have the largest inventory of used FPJ’s. The also pumped he shit out of the brand on their YT channel. While they don’t control the market they certainly are the biggest influencer.

They’re basically like a giant hedge fund owning 40% of the floating stock for a major company.
 

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That Monopoussoir was selling for around $15K at a local dealer not too long ago. It's $15K that I had but couldn't spare at the time, but still . . . :cloud:
 

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