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Maybe I just have bad taste but I find the 6119 pretty convincing. I agree that it is a mishmash, but I think it is rather endearing.

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Although its a mashup and I generally don't like hobnail bezels (I never liked the 3919 or its successor), I actually like these. I think they are the most interesting Calatravas in a long time. I know its almost sacrilege to say anything negative about Patek, but most of their offerings even their complicated ones haven't interested me in a long time.
 

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Although its a mashup and I generally don't like hobnail bezels (I never liked the 3919 or its successor), I actually like these. I think they are the most interesting Calatravas in a long time. I know its almost sacrilege to say anything negative about Patek, but most of their offerings even their complicated ones haven't interested me in a long time.
I can name on one hand the number of attainable Pateks I really, really like (and I do not need my full hand). 6119 is one of them.
 

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Yes. But is there any combination of a dress watch and a sports watch that doesn't by definition amount to a two-watch collection, in the sense that you'd have a watch for each and every possible occasion?
Yeah I realize it’s an easy equation to achieve. I guess I’m more interested in everyone’s opinions on these 2 particular models to cover all situations/scenarios/events from a watch wearing perspective.
 

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Yeah I realize it’s an easy equation to achieve. I guess I’m more interested in everyone’s opinions on these 2 particular models to cover all situations/scenarios/events from a watch wearing perspective.
Yep, excellent in my mind. A sub and a gold dress watch is really my idea of a perfect duo (as long as you're not afraid to really use the sub...no cheating with a g-shock added but not counted in your two watches)!
 

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Could this be a two-watch collection? Open to opinions and discussions.....
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Very nicely done!

Yeah I realize it’s an easy equation to achieve. I guess I’m more interested in everyone’s opinions on these 2 particular models to cover all situations/scenarios/events from a watch wearing perspective.
Well, sure, there is the uninteresting way to think about the question (one dress watch + one sport watch = done) that isn’t worth wasting words on.

But I was really trying to prompt more nuanced discussion. Assume that in fact you should have one dress watch and one sport watch—and only one of each—which would they be? Why those two and not others? Did you pick your favorite in each category or did you pick them to complement each other? Are these your grail pieces and what makes them your grails?

Do you even need both a dress watch and sport watch? Realistically, most no one needs a true dress watch anymore. The right sport watch is wearable with a suit and for the few times one goes black tie, you don’t need a watch at all. Under this thinking, what two non-dress watches would you pick? Or maybe you just want a dress watch, anyway.

Maybe you want one simple time-only watch and one complicated watch, regardless of formality. Which complications and why?

As far as dress + sport combos go, I think your Submariner and Tank comprise an almost platonically ideal pairing. Each is a timeless, genre-defining archetype within their separate spheres. Each is a well-made watch by a first tier maker likely to be around when your children or grandchildren inherit them and need them serviced. And you can indeed cover every scenario from the beach to black tie with just these two watches.

If there is any criticism, your combo (like mine) is a bit obvious. But sometimes obvious is obvious for good reason! Also, if you can only have two watches, it might be nice for one to have a complication or two.
 
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thanks for the replied fellas.........it certainly is an interesting topic.

EDIT: and it should be noted that I'm watching the Price is Right and a Rolex (didn't see the model) is part of the showcase showdown!
 

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Very nicely done!



Well, sure, there is the uninteresting way to think about the question (one dress watch + one sport watch = done) that isn’t worth wasting words on.

But I was really trying to prompt more nuanced discussion. Assume that in fact you should have one dress watch and one sport watch—and only one of each—which would they be? Why those two and not others? Did you pick your favorite in each category or did you pick them to complement each other? Are these your grail pieces and what makes them your grails?

Do you even need both a dress watch and sport watch? Realistically, most no one needs a true dress watch anymore. The right sport watch is wearable with a suit and for the few times one goes black tie, you don’t need a watch at all. Under this thinking, what two non-dress watches would you pick? Or maybe you just want a dress watch, anyway.

Maybe you want one simple time-only watch and one complicated watch, regardless of formality. Which complications and why?

As far as dress + sport combos go, I think your Submariner and Tank comprise an almost platonically ideal pairing. Each is a timeless, genre-defining archetype within their separate spheres. Each is a well-made watch by a first tier maker likely to be around when your children or grandchildren inherit them and need them serviced. And you can indeed cover every scenario from the beach to black tie with just these two watches.
I agree that probably very few actually need a dress watch (I certainly don't), which is why I believe a OneWatch collection is very possible - something like a Rolex Datejust of your choice should do fine; it can possibly survive anything you throw at it, while being dressy enough for most occasions.

Personally, since I don't need a dress watch, my two watch collection consists of a no-date Sub and an IWC Mk XV, as they're both my favourite design in their respective catagories.

Doesn't mean that I don't want a dress watch, but with no great urgency, I'm happy just looking out for one, until something clicks.
 

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Very nicely done!



Well, sure, there is the uninteresting way to think about the question (one dress watch + one sport watch = done) that isn’t worth wasting words on.

But I was really trying to prompt more nuanced discussion. Assume that in fact you should have one dress watch and one sport watch—and only one of each—which would they be? Why those two and not others? Did you pick your favorite in each category or did you pick them to complement each other? Are these your grail pieces and what makes them your grails?

Do you even need both a dress watch and sport watch? Realistically, most no one needs a true dress watch anymore. The right sport watch is wearable with a suit and for the few times one goes black tie, you don’t need a watch at all. Under this thinking, what two non-dress watches would you pick? Or maybe you just want a dress watch, anyway.

Maybe you want one simple time-only watch and one complicated watch, regardless of formality. Which complications and why?

As far as dress + sport combos go, I think your Submariner and Tank comprise an almost platonically ideal pairing. Each is a timeless, genre-defining archetype within their separate spheres. Each is a well-made watch by a first tier maker likely to be around when your children or grandchildren inherit them and need them serviced. And you can indeed cover every scenario from the beach to black tie with just these two watches.

If there is any criticism, your combo (like mine) is a bit obvious. But sometimes obvious is obvious for good reason! Also, if you can only have two watches, it might be nice for one to have a complication or two.
thanks man 👍

I came into these because I pounced on respective opportunities. The tank I got a sick deal on and the sub was offered to me by my AD sooner than expected, although the timing was still right and so I pulled the trigger.

I have other watches and am trying to figure out the next move. Ideally, I want a 3-4 watch collection which will be my watch wardrobe. I'd like to add a 36MM DD to my collection but am not quite sure about which permutation.

This is in fact a nuanced proposition since many other watches could fit the bill. But like others have stated, the 2 in question are the archetypical models in our society. So do I veer from that or stay content?
 

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I agree that probably very few actually need a dress watch (I certainly don't), which is why I believe a OneWatch collection is very possible - something like a Rolex Datejust of your choice should do fine; it can possibly survive anything you throw at it, while being dressy enough for most occasions.

Personally, since I don't need a dress watch, my two watch collection consists of a no-date Sub and an IWC Mk XV, as they're both my favourite design in their respective catagories.

Doesn't mean that I don't want a dress watch, but with no great urgency, I'm happy just looking out for one, until something clicks.
Very nice choices! In this day and age, I agree with this “pick your favorites” approach more than with trying to cover the formality spectrum. My Tank LC eventually fell into disuse, even though I loved the look and feel.

It sounds like you and I might share the same affinity for black dial tool watches. I love that your choices are both so focused, no nonsense, and classic. You caught IWC at their peak: the subsequent pilot watches have been gimmicky and too commercial looking. Also, because these are both so classic and simple, they are extremely versatile—both are easily wearable with a suit. Finally, although they are both tool watches, it is neat that one is for the sea and the other for the sky. Your collection signals a man who has very coherent, focused taste and knows what he likes. A+.
 

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Thank you. And yes, I'm extremely happy with these choices, both are here to stay (unlike a PAM 177 that I sold on after a few years). And I totally agree with your description of post Mk XV IWC.
 

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