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The Octo Finissimo is a great watch. That said, it is a watch I respect more than like. It wears larger than its 40mm size due to its shape, and because the bracelet does not taper that much, it feels like a wristband to me. Maybe I'll come around eventually. Definitely try before you buy.
I came to write the same thing. Beautiful watch, wears awfully on my wrist.
I have not tried it, but I can certainly see this. I would certainly try before I bought - particularly to the extent that some folks have reported that it digs into their wrist, which is not great. In my eyes, this is kind of the ultimate, showy fun watch.

I've tried the Octo and it just wears weird on my wrist. If you want something else besides the Nautilus or 15202, I'd suggest the Czapek Antarctique or the Moser Streamliner.
I see the Czapek Antarctique referenced all the time. Looks like a really cool watch. However, it is a wee bit more expensive. It is amazing how much of a splash Czapek has made in a short amount of time. I kind of hate the "resurrecting a dead brand thing" though.

In that price range, have you considered the GP Laureato?
Eh, the GP Laureato doesn't really do it for me. Doesn't get the juices flowing, which is kind of a pre-req for me.

Cool watch! I haven't experienced one in person, but really seems nice for all the reasons you describe. Also, it seems different enough from the watches you were previously hunting, so as to perhaps not lead to that feeling of <settling for> that can occur when buying a watch similar to the one you <really> want...?

There does seem to be some sort of extraneous lug element to the design...like the outer quarters could simply not be there and the watch would be a bit less squarely fussy?
Well, I have made an affirmative decision on my next watch (unless something better comes up between now and when I purchase it). After I purchase that watch, I really look forward to dipping back into some "fun" stuff. The Zenith Chronomaster Revival Shadow is on the list, as is the new 36mm Explorer SS, and others.

In other words, I do not enjoy the "hunt" and hope to be in a position soon where I no longer feel like I am "hunting". Once I acquire my current target, I would be surprised if I had any feelings of lust for the 5711 or 15202.

The Octo Finissimo is a great watch. I would consider adding one to my collection at some point. I love the case shape. It wears larger than it's dimensions suggest, but that is common with non-round watches. I've tried it on the titanium version and a skeleton version. My only criticism is the bracelet. I don't like how the bracelet feels, I don't love it's looks, or that it uses I believe push pins to size it. So if I bought it, I'd probably take the bracelet off. Actually I like how it looks better on a strap anyway. I think the lug design is much more interesting and is displayed better when it is on a strap anyway. You definitely need to try it on to decide if it is the right watch for you.
Interesting perspective on the bracelet. From what I have read, it seemed to me that the bracelet had near-unanimous appeal. Definitely would want to try it on. Kind of surprised there are no ADs in Louisiana.
 

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I have not tried it, but I can certainly see this. I would certainly try before I bought - particularly to the extent that some folks have reported that it digs into their wrist, which is not great. In my eyes, this is kind of the ultimate, showy fun watch.



I see the Czapek Antarctique referenced all the time. Looks like a really cool watch. However, it is a wee bit more expensive. It is amazing how much of a splash Czapek has made in a short amount of time. I kind of hate the "resurrecting a dead brand thing" though.



Eh, the GP Laureato doesn't really do it for me. Doesn't get the juices flowing, which is kind of a pre-req for me.



Well, I have made an affirmative decision on my next watch (unless something better comes up between now and when I purchase it). After I purchase that watch, I really look forward to dipping back into some "fun" stuff. The Zenith Chronomaster Revival Shadow is on the list, as is the new 36mm Explorer SS, and others.

In other words, I do not enjoy the "hunt" and hope to be in a position soon where I no longer feel like I am "hunting". Once I acquire my current target, I would be surprised if I had any feelings of lust for the 5711 or 15202.



Interesting perspective on the bracelet. From what I have read, it seemed to me that the bracelet had near-unanimous appeal. Definitely would want to try it on. Kind of surprised there are no ADs in Louisiana.
I really like the revival series watches from Zenith. I've been debating thr A384 for a few weeks now. If I found an A386 I think I'd instantly pull the trigger
 

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Interesting perspective on the bracelet. From what I have read, it seemed to me that the bracelet had near-unanimous appeal. Definitely would want to try it on. Kind of surprised there are no ADs in Louisiana.
It surprised me too because I almost always prefer a watch on a bracelet to a watch on a strap..
 
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Random observation: the cashier at my local supermarket, a kid who couldn't have been much older than 20, was wearing a very good Royal Oak copy. Or maybe it wasn't a copy and he's a drug dealer on some kind of community service (this is northern Europe, we don't do mass incarceration). Either way this isn't great for the brand, I would've thought.
 

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Could be a Casio Oak
Random observation: the cashier at my local supermarket, a kid who couldn't have been much older than 20, was wearing a very good Royal Oak copy. Or maybe it wasn't a copy and he's a drug dealer on some kind of community service (this is northern Europe, we don't do mass incarceration). Either way this isn't great for the brand, I would've thought.
 

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New perp cal, new movement - but the size :(. Still, think the triple register is pretty darn cool and happy Patek has introduced a new movement. Just wish it was 38-39mm:
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That's very nice. What size is the case?
 

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That's very nice. What size is the case?
41.3 mm wide, 11.07 mm thick. The thickness is a bit odd to me - about 2mm more than the 5327. I guess it is because it is a modular?
 

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Complain to Foo, not to me: he's the one who suggested that Roger Smith wearing a modern Rolex was an argument in favour of wearing modern Rolex. Because see, what watch to wear is an aesthetic decision, not a watchmaking one.
sign, and scholarly worlds.
Not even close.

You argued that romanticizing industrially-made watches is not valid since artisan-made watches can be at least as good in all horological respects if their makers wanted them to be. After all, if there is something unique to industrially-made watches that individual artisan watchmakers can’t match, then there may be good reason to appreciate each separately.

To demonstrate your point, you gave Roger Smith as an example of an artisan watchmaker who you claimed could match Rolex’s movements in functionality, precision, durability, etc. However, as I explained: there are many reasons why Smith actually cannot make a movement that matches or exceeds a Rolex in every way (e.g. infrastructure, scale, R&D and data resources, material sciences expertise, etc.). Moreover, Roger Smith himself has repeatedly acknowledged that Rolex movements are uniquely capable and wears an Explorer 1 out of admiration.

Hence, the fact that Roger Smith wears a Rolex is not meant to convince you, me, or anyone else to wear one. It was to counter your claim that there is nothing about modern industrially-made watches that is horologically unique versus what artisan watchmakers can achieve.

By the way, Philippe Dufour is also a big Rolex fan.

I'm inclined to agree. But each bubble has its field of expertise. When one talks about horology enthusiasts who buy modern Daytonas and such one is largely talking about the banker bubble these days, which is tantamount to claiming the wrong expertise for that particular group. (Which is why, incidentally, the claim that my argument was ad hominem is ludicrous.)
Oh man. You have data to show that the “banker bubble” is the one buying up modern Daytonas? Even if so, what makes them any worse than the “artist bubble” in horological taste? Maybe they actually have better claim to expertise, given generally strong educational backgrounds, proven analytical skills, and aptitude for learning about diverse topics and issues?

Such silly socialist nonsense. Much of the world’s art is only possible because it is patroned by the “banker bubble”.
 

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Also, I have to say - I think the 6119 provides immense support for the comments that I (and others) made a couple weeks ago, about Patek's movements. The new movement increases PR to 65 hrs and has hacking seconds. It also is way more appropriate for the size of the case, and allows Patek to place the subdial in the appropriate position.
 

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Also, I have to say - I think the 6119 provides immense support for the comments that I (and others) made a couple weeks ago, about Patek's movements. The new movement increases PR to 65 hrs and has hacking seconds. It also is way more appropriate for the size of the case, and allows Patek to place the subdial in the appropriate position.
They move slowly and carefully. So, when a new movement is introduced, you can be a lot more confident that it has been fully vetted.
 

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