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patrick_b

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Oh yeah! I remember someone posted about that. Here's the latest, which actually isn't that current:


My favorite line:

"Stories are emerging of authorized dealers selling Rolex watches by the dozen to grey market traders. These flippers will acquire, let’s say, 11 easily available watches at a time if the authorized dealer will include one steel Daytona or Batman in the bundle that can be sold at a huge markup."

It would appear that the only difference between the average civilian and a gray market dealer, at least in the eyes of the AD, is the efficiency and the velocity with which the "relationship" is established in order to obtain what each is really looking for.
Interesting read. Easy for the employer to simply blame it on a rogue SA. Having been in a few AD’s I’d bet there’s not a lot that happens without a managers approval or at least knowledge especially when we are talking a sale of a dozen watches.

I still have a hard time seeing RICO implications but my knowledge of which is limited to what I learned watching the Sopranos
 

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Actually, these new steel Tank Must may be the best looking watches at their price:

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- especially with the real leather strap instead of the apple seed one on the solar powered - if you can live with quartz (and for this kind of watch I think I could - the first good watch I bought 30 years ago was a gold plated Must de Cartier Tank, so also quartz; only kept it for a few months though, before getting a Sub instead).
 

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I could live with a solar powered quartz watch but not a regular quartz. I read somewhere that Cartier is replacing the Solo with the Must.
 

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rainbow daytona is the worst rolex but it's the best at being the worst and that makes it cool and quirky
 

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Anyone have any thoughts on Oris? I did a forum search and it looks like at least @George Red and @Andy57 have owned them at some point. Specifically, I randomly came across this Oris Aquis Whale Shark Limited Edition, and I really like it:

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I live near the beach and go pretty often, and I've been keeping an eye out for the last year or two for a fun summer/beach watch in a diver style (even though I understand this is sort of straddling two world with the GMT bezel). I also appreciate the fact that some portion of the proceeds goes to environmental protection. I think the shark skin dial is also very cool.

Certainly not a fancy movement, but I don't particularly care about that for something like this. In the back of my mind, I thought I'd eventually end up getting an orange/black Planet Ocean, but the helium escape valve always struck me as kind of silly, and at retail it's twice the cost of this Oris. NB: I'm in no way pining for a PO such that this would be a substitute, eventually leading to dissatisfaction.

My local AD for Rolex and Tudor is also one for Oris. I put my name on a list for the new 36mm Explorer yesterday and had already planned to stop in again tomorrow or Monday to check out the new Tudors in person (and see just how ostentatious that green/gold BB58 really is), so maybe I'll talk to someone about this particular piece. As a piece limited to only 2,016 I wonder if ADs even have them in store or if they have to be special ordered individually.

Anyway--looking for thoughts on Oris and specifically the Aquis line.
 

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Anyone have any thoughts on Oris? I did a forum search and it looks like at least @George Red and @Andy57 have owned them at some point. Specifically, I randomly came across this Oris Aquis Whale Shark Limited Edition, and I really like it:

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I live near the beach and go pretty often, and I've been keeping an eye out for the last year or two for a fun summer/beach watch in a diver style (even though I understand this is sort of straddling two world with the GMT bezel). I also appreciate the fact that some portion of the proceeds goes to environmental protection. I think the shark skin dial is also very cool.

Certainly not a fancy movement, but I don't particularly care about that for something like this. In the back of my mind, I thought I'd eventually end up getting an orange/black Planet Ocean, but the helium escape valve always struck me as kind of silly, and at retail it's twice the cost of this Oris. NB: I'm in no way pining for a PO such that this would be a substitute, eventually leading to dissatisfaction.

My local AD for Rolex and Tudor is also one for Oris. I put my name on a list for the new 36mm Explorer yesterday and had already planned to stop in again tomorrow or Monday to check out the new Tudors in person (and see just how ostentatious that green/gold BB58 really is), so maybe I'll talk to someone about this particular piece. As a piece limited to only 2,016 I wonder if ADs even have them in store or if they have to be special ordered individually.

Anyway--looking for thoughts on Oris and specifically the Aquis line.

Looks sharp. Reminds of the old Seamster GMT. That one had a similar vibe, but I like this better. The dial texture is like a stingray strap. Go for it!
 

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Wife was cleaning her jewelry etc. tonight out of sheer boredom and I snuck a picture of her watch roll. Nothing too freaky and all well worn for years.

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Yacht-Master II is the worst Rolex. Brooking no arguments.

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It is utterly brilliant as a yellow gold paperweight-on-the-wrist (oh, that shiny subdial...) and conceptually the ur-Rolex thanks to its 10 minute countdown which must surely be the most useless, and least used, of all Rolex complications offered on modern models.
 

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Looks sharp. Reminds of the old Seamster GMT. That one had a similar vibe, but I like this better. The dial texture is like a stingray strap. Go for it!
Yeah the dial is supposed to mimic the skin of the whale shark, the conservation of which a portion of the sales proceeds go. Very cool looking. I'm usually not a fan of those textured style dials, but I think that one is done quite well if internet photos are to be believed.
 

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I think I'd missed your earlier post. I agree that Rolex are now in the business of adding the type of functionality that can be talked about as part of the show. I would add that they're doing that while also adding as much bling as possible even to the "tool" watches, and these days they're barely bothering with the plausible deniability about their motives for doing that. Not a good look if you ask me.
It's a great look. You have to think about what happened to Guy Debord's work after the 1960s. Instead of being a revolutionary manifesto towards a new communist utopia, his words were deformed, simplified, commercialised and generally mainstreamed into what is now an utterly normal and bland way of talking about consumerism. Rolex is merely providing this service to watch consumers. In any case the spectacle is a lot of fun - few of us want to live in collectivised societies, no?
 

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It is utterly brilliant as a yellow gold paperweight-on-the-wrist (oh, that shiny subdial...) and conceptually the ur-Rolex thanks to its 10 minute countdown which must surely be the most useless, and least used, of all Rolex complications offered on modern models.

ha what do you suppose are the *most-used* rolex complications ?
 

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