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Dino944

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Offered to me by my AD. Cop or drop? Unsure...
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Overall, I like it, except for the date window at 6 cutting into the 24 hour indicator. It's just that aesthetically it bothers me. I have a chronograph that I love...but the date cuts into a subdial and it annoys me. To my eye it is the one flaw in the design of the chronograph I have or the Patek you are trying on. However, the 24 hour indicator isn't that necessary so if the date cuts into it it's maybe not that big of a deal. If it makes you smile go for it!
 
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Took a look at the new Speedy Pro. It really is a nice but I also came across a preowned CK2998 and have to say that I'm intrigued. I've purchased from this dealer before (Sea Dweller) but as I stated above my risk tolerance is lower now. On the other hand, we aren't talking Daytona gray prices and he's throwing in a Speedy bracelet and the OEM strap.

Checking prices at Chrono24, this one is priced competitively (no original box). I'm torn. I really like the panda dial and the size at 39-40mm vs the Pro's 42mm.

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Took a look at the new Speedy Pro. It really is a nice but I also came across a preowned CK2998 and have to say that I'm intrigued. I've purchased from this dealer before but as I stated above my risk tolerance is lower now. On the other hand, we aren't talking Daytona gray prices and he's throwing in a Speedy bracelet and the OEM strap.

Checking prices at Chrono24, this one is priced competitively (no original box). I'm torn. I really like the panda dial and the size at 39-40mm vs the Pro's 42mm.

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I love that one.
 

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seems to me that this is a super jaded way of looking at things. I ONLY buy watches that have a significance in life and usually this means they’re attached to emotions. I want part of that experience to be sitting in the AD chatting, the glass of champagne and the retail experience as a whole. I also find that With a little negotiation you can have all this at reasonable discount.

please don’t attach your own jaded perspective on to others. You don’t speak for everyone.

for background, I have a few, what you guys would likely call, entry level watches. Specifically longines, including my beloved master collection moonphase triple date, which was my first really significant purchase back when I was in my earlier 30’s.

but this year to celebrate my 40th I’m picking up my first JLC, and a reverso duoface at that. For me engaging with the dealer, doing the deal and going in to be treated well is part of the memory that attaches sentiment to the watch.

I wouldn’t have it any other way.
cool story bro.

How are you this emotional and calling me jaded? I never said I speak for everyone - how did you misinterpret so poorly? I merely conveyed something which actually happened - something factual - whereas you are speaking in the abstract about something still potentially happening in the future.

All I'm saying is that you may be let down if you are building up certain expectations which may not happen. It's cool to want what you are looking for from a "dealer experience" perspective but perhaps tame your expectations. Either way, would like to hear about your experience on the big day.........hopefully you will report back on how it goes.

Wempe treated me just fine and still do whenever I stop by. They are very professional and always offer refreshments. However, it's a transaction at its core - just like buying anything else. I didn't leave the showroom with butterflies in my stomach.

Great choice on the Reverso.........definitely one of my grails.
 

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All black “Tribute to 3705”, only available on Mr Porter. £11,100.

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Looks sharp, I love the hands compared to IWC's current pilot's chronographs. Not sure about the black case.

I had a 3706 many years ago. I stupidly sold it in favor of the Sinn 356 FliegerChrono. At the time I thought I "needed" more WR. The IWC had 60M and the Sinn 100M. Looking back, it was silly but that was my thought process. I eventually sold the Sinn as I thought it a hair too small. Again in retrospect, it was a terrible decision. Assuming the above IWC is around 39mm, it's damn near perfect for my tastes today.
 

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Many iwc’s sit on my grail list. The primary being the Portugesier Perpetual. Blue face, white gold, it stuns me every single time I see one. But at 44.2mm it’s just absolutely huge and will never go anywhere near my wrist. Sadly many IWC’s do this and as a result I’ll probably never own one.

it’s why I love JLC so much, even their chunky watches (like the old master compressor range) are somehow delicate and slim.
 

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Looks sharp, I love the hands compared to IWC's current pilot's chronographs. Not sure about the black case.

I had a 3706 many years ago. I stupidly sold it in favor of the Sinn 356 FliegerChrono. At the time I thought I "needed" more WR. The IWC had 60M and the Sinn 100M. Looking back, it was silly but that was my thought process. I eventually sold the Sinn as I thought it a hair too small. Again in retrospect, it was a terrible decision. Assuming the above IWC is around 39mm, it's damn near perfect for my tastes today.
Sorry to hear that - the 3706 and the 3711 are some of the only chrono designs I really like (and the only one I like better than these is the Speedy pro).

And I prefer them in SS, so this new 3705 tribute isn't really for me, but I still think it was nice to see a new IWC, designed in the style from when they were worth considering.
 

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Took a look at the new Speedy Pro. It really is a nice but I also came across a preowned CK2998 and have to say that I'm intrigued. I've purchased from this dealer before (Sea Dweller) but as I stated above my risk tolerance is lower now. On the other hand, we aren't talking Daytona gray prices and he's throwing in a Speedy bracelet and the OEM strap.

Checking prices at Chrono24, this one is priced competitively (no original box). I'm torn. I really like the panda dial and the size at 39-40mm vs the Pro's 42mm.

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I'm on the process of moving and have exclusively been wearing my First Omega in Space for a month or two now. I have to say that the size is just perfect. With regards to the CK2998 you should of course get whichever you prefer, but I much prefer the blue version to this one and that is what I would recommend. Sadly I never picked one up and prices are seemingly on the rise despite the production number.

All black “Tribute to 3705”, only available on Mr Porter. £11,100.

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It's 41mm while the original is 39mm.
The size looks like it would be an issue for me. The Week on the Wrist segment I saw on Hodinkee illustrates that to me, but of course experiencing it on your own wrist is the most telling. Apart from that the rest of the changes from the 3705 are understandable and I think acceptable. I also quite like the idea of Ceratanium. Still the size and actually the price would make it a pass for me. In fact the price coupled with the release at all have me further regretting not getting the Hodinkee x IWC release. More still I'm kicking myself for not getting a 3705 a few years back when I could for $8k.

In this photo it looks quite large on the wrist:

 

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