The Watch Appreciation Thread - Part two (Rolex, Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, Jaeger LeCoultre,

[chocomallo]

Reading comprehension. I asked about taking delivery of a watch at the Salon that was purchased at an AD. Nobody knows the answer, it would seem.

Sorry, I guess I misunderstood: "f I buy a new Patek from an AD, can I have it sent to the Patek Salon in Geneva to pick-up and get the red carpet treatment?" It seemed like you didn't know the answer to the underlined portion and wanted to confirm if that "treatment" was available. Which sounds a lot like you are begging Patek to sell you a watch rather than Patek having the privilege to sell you a watch. The answer to the first part is obvious. If a buyer wants to purchase at his AD but then incur the additional cost of picking it up in another location, of course a brand will accommodate such a waste of money. Not to mention import duties you might pay for that "privilege."

 

[TheFoo]

Sorry, I guess I misunderstood: "f I buy a new Patek from an AD, can I have it sent to the Patek Salon in Geneva to pick-up and get the red carpet treatment?" It seemed like you didn't know the answer to the underlined portion and wanted to confirm if that "treatment" was available. Which sounds a lot like you are begging Patek to sell you a watch rather than Patek having the privilege to sell you a watch. The answer to the first part is obvious. If a buyer wants to purchase at his AD but then incur the additional cost of picking it up in another location, of course a brand will accommodate such a waste of money. Not to mention import duties you might pay for that "privilege."

What is wrong with you? You seem to WANT to read everything with maximum cynicism and bad faith.

I’m not “begging” for anything. I just want to know if I can make this a fun weekend trip for my birthday. Pick up my watch, see some other watches, tour the Salon, tour the museum, etc. Is that so fucking weird or hard to understand? Fuck me.

Everybody gets treated nicely at the Salon. That’s what I meant by “red carpet treatment”—not that I’m demanding anything special.

There are a gazillion reasons why the ADs and the Salon may not be setup for this exact sort of thing, where the watch gets sent BACK to Geneva for customer pick-up. Who knows. That’s why I’m asking!

 

[chocomallo]

It was an attempt to answer you in good faith, you dumb fuck.

Who said I liked Laurent Ferrier more than a Patek 5170? You are putting words in my mouth.



Do you see me looking at the 5172? No, because I don’t like fancy lugs—Patek or not.



I think exactly the opposite. The dial looks empty and awkward with the regular stick markers.



Are you really this numbingly stupid? I didn’t say I liked pre-2000 IWC to the exclusion of all else.

Like I have said many times, the 5170 is my favorite watch in 20+ years of looking at watches. Why the fuck is that something you have trouble grappling with?

Has anyone ever disagreed with you and you not called them dumb? I genuinely meant that the list of watches you have owned are the hit list of the last 15-20 years. Nothing grabbed me as original. Look, I agree they are all great watches, I am not arguing with that. But they do not exhibit any particular taste outside of the internet consensus.

Can't tell if you looked at the 5172, speaking of putting words in the mouth. You did say pre-2000 IWC was your "soul brand." I apologize if I mistook this as the sort of hyperbole associated with "grail watch."

 

[TheFoo]

Has anyone ever disagreed with you and you not called them dumb?

1. Don’t even pretend you approached this discussion respectfully or cordially.

2. I call it as I see it.

I genuinely meant that the list of watches you have owned are the hit list of the last 15-20 years. Nothing grabbed me as original. Look, I agree they are all great watches, I am not arguing with that. But they do not exhibit any particular taste outside of the internet consensus.

Can't tell if you looked at the 5172, speaking of putting words in the mouth. You did say pre-2000 IWC was your "soul brand." I apologize if I mistook this as the sort of hyperbole associated with "grail watch."

The point is not to be “original”. Next time you pick out a suit, make sure it is “original” looking and see how that goes.

Anyway, what I was illustrating is that I have specific preferences and criteria that have broadly remained consistent over the years. If they happen to align with trend from time to time, so be it.

 

[chocomallo]

What is wrong with you? You seem to WANT to read everything with maximum cynicism and bad faith.

I’m not “begging” for anything. I just want to know if I can make this a fun weekend trip for my birthday. Pick up my watch, see some other watches, tour the Salon, tour the museum, etc. Is that so fucking weird or hard to understand. Fuck me.

Everybody gets treated nicely at the salon. That’s what I meant by “red carpet treatment”—not that I’m demanding anything special.

There are a gazillion reasons why the ADs and the Salon may not be setup for this exact sort of thing, where the watch gets sent BACK to Geneva for customer pick-up. Who knows. That’s why I’m asking!

It's not bad faith and cynicism. It's that you come across as disingenuous in the way you engage with this community so that it is hard to read any of your posts without skepticism. You already made up your mind about the 5170 but still asked to be dissuaded then summarily rejected all suggestions. Then you personally attack anyone who questions your motives. When you are called the ultimate troll, you scream moderator. And one cannot help but remember the Hermes wallet story and see the similarity here. So "begging" or extorting, the word choice doesn't matter. You are willfully blind to your Karen-like behavior.

Perhaps it is simply that you are terrible at communicating. Which you clearly think you excel at above all others.

 

[TheFoo]

It's not bad faith and cynicism. It's that you come across as disingenuous in the way you engage with this community so that it is hard to read any of your posts without skepticism. You already made up your mind about the 5170 but still asked to be dissuaded then summarily rejected all suggestions. Then you personally attack anyone who questions your motives. When you are called the ultimate troll, you scream moderator. And one cannot help but remember the Hermes wallet story and see the similarity here. So "begging" or extorting, the word choice doesn't matter. You are willfully blind to your Karen-like behavior.

Perhaps it is simply that you are terrible at communicating. Which you clearly think you excel at above all others.

If I was even a fraction of what you accuse me of, I’d be a miserable disaster of a human being and in no position to be buying any sort of nice watch.

 

[chocomallo]

1. Don’t even pretend you approached this discussion respectfully or cordially.

2. I call it as I see it.



The point is not to be “original”. Next time you pick out a suit, make sure it is “original” looking and see how that goes.

Anyway, what I was illustrating is that I have specific preferences and criteria that have broadly remained consistent over the years. If they happen to align with trend from time to time, so be it.

But your own preferences you listed don't even match the watches you have owned. You don't like Roman numerals, but you miss the Tank you sold. And it was rose gold but you like white metal. I just don't understand your immutable stance and aggression with everyone that disagrees with you no matter the triviality of the difference. You always come looking to stir the pot and when you do you act surprised and make personal attacks. Then you point the finger like you are now at me. I have complimented you many times in the past. I own a Patek 5026G which is about as close to a current production Patek as can be had to the 5170G that you want to buy.

But as soon as a disagreement arises, you go on the attack full bore. You lack the ability to be conciliatory or agreeable. Maybe that serves your banking clients well, but it doesn't foster collegiality about collecting watches. But you don't seem to care about that, so I like to poke the bear that is mafoofan as often as I can.

 

[chocomallo]

If I was even a fraction of what you accuse me of, I’d be a miserable disaster of a human being and in no position to be buying any sort of nice watch.

Hmm, I can think of a former president that most people don't like, and he certainly proves this statement isn't true.

 

[LA Guy]

Alright, everyone chill out please.

Cheers,

Fok.

 

[am55]

In the "unjustifiable complications I'm sure I can find an excuse for":


And here is my excuse: driving westwards in Sydney during winter and early spring afternoons, the sun shines directly into my eyes which is quite annoying and made me think it'd be great if, after landing somewhere, I could figure out how low the sun is going to be during the day and adjust choice and time of transport accordingly. Who am I kidding...

 

[chocomallo]

In the "unjustifiable complications I'm sure I can find an excuse for":


And here is my excuse: driving westwards in Sydney during winter and early spring afternoons, the sun shines directly into my eyes which is quite annoying and made me think it'd be great if, after landing somewhere, I could figure out how low the sun is going to be during the day and adjust choice and time of transport accordingly. Who am I kidding...

What a cool watch! My only request would be to make the earth a little more realistic. It is a bit flat and simple for such a nice watch. But that is a tiny piece of real estate so it might be hard to do so.

 

[Darkside]

My brother’s new watch. It’s a 36, found at an AD in Florida.

 

[Sam H]

This thread got heated. Let’s focus on some watches again.

I managed to get ahold of this beauty after the Amazon seller sold me $700 worth of NATO straps. Finally jumped the line and he began showing me what was in the back. It’s maybe a fifth of the cost of some of the more expensive brands here but I think it’s honestly better in some ways, for example it doesn’t need to be wound I think. I sold my cocktail time to cover it (I liked the cocktail time a lot because it was very underrated and unique; very few people owned one especially in the watch enthusiast world).

It’s very exciting watch to wear because underneath the diamond cut acrylic are 2 real diamonds which I think is a nice touch. It reminds me of the Rolexes that have a lot of diamonds in them which I think is always a step up.

I don’t believe the watch is real gold but honestly you can barely tell.

 

[an draoi]

And yet your tailor is A&S alum? Jeezus what went wrong?

I don't get this. Is it an insult?

 

[TheFoo]

I don't get this. Is it an insult?

Context is important.