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width of the K and F are similar around the middle part of your foot and in terms of instep. However K is much slimmer in the toe box vs the F last
But what does that mean? If it's wider in the middle but it's narrower in the toebox to the point you have to go up sizes to make up for that, what good does it do that it's wider in the middle? Does that mean that it was built for a special shape of foot and that's what the 'ovidal' stuff comes in?
 

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But what does that mean? If it's wider in the middle but it's narrower in the toebox to the point you have to go up sizes to make up for that, what good does it do that it's wider in the middle? Does that mean that it was built for a special shape of foot and that's what the 'ovidal' stuff comes in?
I am just telling you how they fit, can't answer your other questions
 

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I am just telling you how they fit, can't answer your other questions
No, actually that's pretty insightful. In fact, that is exactly what the definition of 'ovoid' is:

Like an egg, it's wider in the middle and it's starting to get narrow pretty quickly, like the K last that is wide in the middle in both dimensions (width + instep, because, remember, 'ovoid' refers to a 3-dimensional object like an egg) and with a narrower toebox.

Makes sense now.

That would be the 4th pic from the left (or the second or the last one, you get the idea), and imagine that with a high instep too. But it would not work with feet like the first pic, or even worse, the 6th.

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But what does that mean? If it's wider in the middle but it's narrower in the toebox to the point you have to go up sizes to make up for that, what good does it do that it's wider in the middle? Does that mean that it was built for a special shape of foot and that's what the 'ovidal' stuff comes in?
In practice, it means the ball of your foot fits fine but the outside of your big and little toes will be constricted if your foot is average sized. Some people don't mind suffering for fashion, or else their foot is narrow enough to fit into the pointy toe. In my case, I could wear U and K for a couple hours, provided I didn't need to walk much, but wouldn't stroll around a city in them.
 

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I am serious yes. A bit like some cars you may choose between some years or some miles guarantee, and it seems relevant
I think Vass would have to charge us 1000 dollars per regular priced pair to guarantee such services to its customers.
 

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I think Vass would have to charge us 1000 dollars per regular priced pair to guarantee such services to its customers.
But what if they also sold extended warranty on top of the factory warranty?
 

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Anyone know much about the FB last? Just lo9ks like a slightly roomier F last, I'm a solid 10D so I hope it fits in size 43
 

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That cognac grain in 42 is dope as hell.

Sadly its not versatile enough for me to pull the trigger at full price
 

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But what if they also sold extended warranty on top of the factory warranty?
I sorry but this is not a serious suggestion. What percentage of shoes go 'faulty'. How could you account for storage conditions, dried leather, usage rate, sole wear rate, weather, temperature extremes etc.

Shoes are made of mainly organic material such as leather, cork, glue, cotton, wool, steel, brass. These materials have many variables.

Even if one built a warranty offering it would be such a small take-up that it would not cover it's costs.

Any kind of extended warranty is essentially an insurance policy. Underwriting a warranty (on any scale) involves resource and risk. A big ask for any small company.

It is always a shame when we are let down by a product that fails but extended warranty's on clothing is not reasonably viable by any measure I can imagine.
 
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I sorry but this is not a serious suggestion. What percentage of shoes go 'faulty'. How could you account for storage conditions, dried leather, temperature extremes etc.

Shoes are made of organic material such as leather, cork, glue, cotton wool. These materials have many variables.

It is always a shame when we are let down by a product that fails but extended warranty's on clothing is not reasonably viable by any measure.

On this note, I have about 12 pairs from Vass, and not a single one with defects (one had a leather damage, but it was sold as such and discounted). True, there's only a small mileage on some of them, but one develops an intuitive feel as to the sturdiness relatively early on.

I am discounting, of course, the Vass Charm (two shoes on the same last, in the same size, being.... I will not say different, I will say hand-made).
 

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