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The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. peppercorn78

    peppercorn78 Senior member

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    U last oxblood monks with baggy BB Madison fit trews...

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  2. jokb

    jokb Senior member

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    Not exactly what you mentioned but here's an example of double monks in gold museum (dark) in K last. I think the double monk looks sleek on a chiselled/narrow toe last like the U or the K. As for the leather, if it were mine, the double monk is versatile enough so I'll go with any museum colour

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  3. peppercorn78

    peppercorn78 Senior member

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    If this is your first time and you haven't been able to nail your sizing down, Mr. Kuti may try to dissuade you from taking the first plunge with museum or shell, since they're both more expensive. If the sizing doesn't work out (and it truly can be a gamble), your tears will be $100 or $200 bigger.

    If you're going for a chiseled, Italian look, then U and K are awesome. But they do both run quite narrow. I think F and R are also good options for a more rounded, English look.

    I was sold on oxblood calf for mine after seeing RogerP's incredible pair. It is truly a super-versatile chameleon color: can look either dark burgundy, dark brown, or even black under different lighting conditions.
     
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    Thanks for all the input! I've spoken with Ascot, and luckily for me, the owner has the same pair of CJ's as me, so it appears sizing won't be an issue. Sammy at Ascot suggested calf burgundy over museum plum because it will contrast better with a burnished toe. Has anyone seen either of these combos?

    My concern is the pics of calf burgundy on the Vass website appear a bit browner than I'd like. I'm looking for a true burgundy shoe here, so any thoughts would be appreciated. The $200 upcharge for the cordovan seems a bit steep, so I've narrowed my choice to the burgundy calf and museum plum.
     
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    There seems to be a fairly diverse interpretation of what constitutes burgundy, among different shoe makers. If it is a purplish shade you are looking for, then go for oxblood. If it is a more reddish tone you are looking for, then go for their bordeaux calf.
    I do agree, plum museum would prob not go very well with burnishing, as the mottling and burnishing together, may look too "busy". Burnishing probably goes best with "plain" calf.
     
  6. peppercorn78

    peppercorn78 Senior member

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    I don't have any Bordeaux calf, but I've got plenty of color 8 shell, and both plum museum and oxblood. Oxblood is most definitely the brownest. Plum is very purple, and color 8, of course varies by maker and by batch.

    For the reddest, definitely go with Bordeaux / burgundy.
     
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  7. RogerP

    RogerP Senior member

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    You should check out the premium EG charges for shell. Even Bonafe has a steeper surcharge.

    I'm not sure what you mean by true burgundy, but this boot is in Bordeaux - calf and shell.



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    Oxblood is a much deeper shade, with more brown in the mix.

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    Actually, I've seen Ascot do a few shoes and boots with a combo of Bordeaux and Oxblood and they were awesome.
     
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    RogerP my man, your pictures are just killing it [​IMG][​IMG]
     
  9. patliean1

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    @RogerP What last are those monks on and what size did you take?
     
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    Thanks bud.



    K last and I wear the same 43 that I take in U and F.
     
  11. deecee147

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    I'm a 8.5uk (43.5) in Joseph Cheaney 205 last, I like a snug, close fitting shoe and i'm after a similar fit in some Vass boots. I'm looking at the U-last, would an 8.5uk be ok? I'm not able to try and on and appreciate it's a difficult thing to judge/answer online.

    Also, as far as MTO goes do any particular leathers increase price (other than cordovans). I'm thinking things like the museum calf leathers.
     
  12. RogerP

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    I don't know anything about Cheaney, but I would not have thought that 8.5 UK translates to 43.5 in any brand. I generally wear a 9UK (EG, G&G, Cleverly, most Carmina) and take a 43 from Vass for all lasts except P2 where I size down by a half. 43.5 would be more of an equivalent to UK 9.5 in most brands, I believe. Do you have any other make / size / last data points to go on?
     
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    Apologies, my mistake I meant a 42.5.

    No Cheaney were the first "proper" shoe that I have purchased. Now I'm onto my first "proper" boot!

    I'm a uk9 in all other standard shoes, trainers etc. But the 8.5uk in the Cheaney felt lots better, the 9 in the Cheaney just felt too big all round.
     
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    Okay well you're clearly either a 43 or 42.5 in Vass U. This last is reasonably snug-fitting to begin with (primarily in the toe box). If you are a UK 9 in most other brands (as I am) then I think it safer to go with 43 since the Cheaney seems to be an outlier for you at UK 8.5.
     
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    Totally agree, go with 43. I think the Cheaney last is likely roomier and this is why you find them to fit better than your UK9.
    The one caveat I would give is that if the toebox is where you're lacking room then U may not work for you at all
     
  16. deecee147

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    Hi @RogerP - what colours do you have on these here - i'm trying to decide which colour boots to get (looking through the various Brown's in the Vass images on here).
     
  17. peppercorn78

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    @RogerP do you have any examples of Vass grain leather IRL? I'm trying to decide between brown or oxblood grain for a chukka makeup.
     
  18. RogerP

    RogerP Senior member

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    Those are three shades of Cognac,of which Vass has about 5 different shades. I don't recall the exact names. Best to send the pic to whomever you are ordering through if this is the combo you want. I know Ascot does a lot of shoes and boots in this combo.

    Peppercorn, I had a brown grain / calf combo tall boot and will post the pics for you later today.

    Cheers
     
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    See the boots in my sig for an example of brown scotch grain
     
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    ^First time a see a boot on the 3636 last. They are great!!.
     

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