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The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. Mica2015

    Mica2015 Well-Known Member

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    I am asking because I feel like the whole ordering process advertised online is for MTO only. I just want a RTW pair.
     
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  2. Zapasman

    Zapasman Senior member

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    I am sure you guys do not want to know.[​IMG]
     
  3. mw313

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    Yes this is correct. I have the narrow width.

    If you are in between you can also get a full sock liner to add in, which would help raise your foot up slightly, effectively decreasing the width by about 1/4 - 1/2 width.

    Hope that helps.
     
  4. mw313

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    Yes width for a shoe is the overall volume or circumference around the shoe. When width goes up or down the actual sole "width" does change but the height of the shoe changes as well because volume is a three dimensional measurement. Just because someone's foot is wider doesn't mean that their foot won't have more volume due to a change in the height of the instep.

    This can vary from the soft tissue (i.e. Fat, muscle, skin) but can also be the osseus (bone) structure of their foot. This is why some people will be able to tolerate different widths for sizing even is their foot has the same measurements. You need to evaluate if the width or lack there of, for your foot is soft tissue or bone. If it is bone, you will need a better fitting shoe because the foot will not change shape as much. If you have a lot of soft tissue, the foot can move around a bit more due to the nature of that tissue, which allows that person to tolerate tightness in some places by that same tissue moving to fill in other areas of the shoe to get a better fill of the shoe.

    A Boney narrow foot will need the best fit because nothing moves and the foot needs a near perfect last or the shoe will have many areas of leather that cause weird creasing due to the lack of volume.

    A wide or high volume but Boney foot needs a good fit, because any tight spots can cause added pressure and irritation on the bones that doesn't have extra soft tissue cushioning them.


    Hope that helps to clarify things a bit.
     
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  5. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    For what it's worth, greater width doesn't automatically necessitate extra height, esp. not when we focus on the foot itself. Unfortunately standard lasts seldom reflect real life feet...a statistical average of common foot types, perhaps. This is why...all other things being equal...obsessing about last shapes (esp. in RTW footwear) for any reason other than aesthetics is wildly misinformed and misguided. It's magical thinking and not much else.

    As a maker, whose primary concern is the foot...with all its idiosyncrasies...but nevertheless ever mindful of the shoe and how it affects the foot (and vice versa) I have to express some reservation regarding a...shall we say...somewhat more ready tolerance vis-a-vis fit for any foot configuration.

    It's true that a meaty, high volume foot has more cushioning and so may not experience immediate discomfort. But cushioning is not fit and the worst part of it is that any cushioning...internal or external...tends, more often than not, to camouflage a misfit. Sometimes egregious misfits. And if not fit properly, the meaty, high volume foot will create and experience problems just as surely as a boney foot, if only in the long run. It will almost always walk over the welt, for one obvious example.

    Fit is fit, cushioning doesn't confer any immunity to foot problems that can develop from misfit footwear.

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  6. j ingevaldsson

    j ingevaldsson Senior member

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    They still have some hides left of a vegetable tanned grain leather from the Swedish tannery Tärnsjö from when we made a collaboration boot with it last year. Here's pics and more info about the leather.
     
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  7. TtownMD

    TtownMD Senior member

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    [​IMG]
    Vass Whiskey Shell Boot Maiden Voyage !!
     
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  8. NAMOR

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    those look fantastic! were those from notch? would love to see how they age
     
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  9. TtownMD

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    NAMOR yes sir !!
     
  10. peppercorn78

    peppercorn78 Senior member

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    Whoah how did u get whiskey from Vass??

    I thought they only had Bordeaux and cigar right now.
     
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  11. TtownMD

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    Pepper not sure what all they have but I picked these bad boy from notch
     
  12. sacafotos

    sacafotos Senior member

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    Has anyone seen Vass scotch grain cordovan?
     
  13. ThinkDerm

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    no, have you??
     
  14. mw313

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    I agree in that the meaty foot will be able to tolerate more for the short term and may start to develop problems in the long term but it also depends on how much that shoe is worn too.

    Of course it is best for one to have a personal last to accommodate all of the options and idiosyncrasies of a foot, but since most can't do that they have to make due in the best way they can.
     
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    both! r last looks like cj 325 while the f last looks more like an elongated 341
     
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    NAMOR Senior member

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    any updates on how these have worn???
     
  17. Watchman1

    Watchman1 Senior member

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    Thanks Bro.

    I've been tryin to get me a pair of Vass for a minute...

    But my boy @Notch done fell off...

    Everybody else is sayin no exotic hides...

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  18. NAMOR

    NAMOR Senior member

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    you want exotic? order burgundy and cross your fingers!
     
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  19. ericgereghty

    ericgereghty Senior member

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    Is Notch no longer doing his proxy service?

    I know he told me (late August, if memory serves) that he would be out of country for roughly 3+ months, so this could be what's accounting for any issues?
     
  20. Watchman1

    Watchman1 Senior member

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    I hope so. Glad you told me that.

    At first, everybody was like; "No more cordovan oxford boots..."

    Then, they was like; "No more whiskey and the like..."

    Now, their like; "No more cordovan at all..."

    I'm about to roll the dice with some burgundy and hope for the best.
     

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