1. And... we're back. You'll notice that all of your images are back as well, as are our beloved emoticons, including the infamous :foo: We have also worked with our server folks and developers to fix the issues that were slowing down the site.

    There is still work to be done - the images in existing sigs are not yet linked, for example, and we are working on a way to get the images to load faster - which will improve the performance of the site, especially on the pages with a ton of images, and we will continue to work diligently on that and keep you updated.

    Cheers,

    Fok on behalf of the entire Styleforum team
    Dismiss Notice

The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. Joenobody0

    Joenobody0 Senior member

    Messages:
    2,401
    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2010
    I totally agree. If you're not happy send them back. I have no idea how I'd feel, but the pictures didn't look bad. The disappointment is totally understandable.
     
  2. Bill Dlwgosh

    Bill Dlwgosh Senior member

    Messages:
    632
    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Location:
    Toronto
    Pretty sure those shoes are going back. That scar would bug the hell out of me if they were mine, and as mentioned, handmade $700 US (or whatever) shoes ought to be better than AE seconds.
     
  3. TtownMD

    TtownMD Senior member

    Messages:
    6,261
    Joined:
    May 4, 2015
    Location:
    US
    
    + 1
     
  4. Joenobody0

    Joenobody0 Senior member

    Messages:
    2,401
    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2010
    I realize it's tedious, but can some people with experience suggest a good starting point for Vass F last sizing?

    I measure between 7.5 and 7.75 on the Brannock, and I definitely have a narrow foot (even more so the heel than the forefoot).

    I wear a 7.5 length in all the normal fitting Alden lasts (Hampton, Aberdeen, Leydon, etc) and could probably take a B width, though I haven't tried. I get a nice fit from the Hampton in 7.5C when I wear thick socks.

    I'm a UK 6.5E in the C&J 325, though I can again wear thick socks so a narrow would be better. I take a UK 6.5E in the C&J 314, but that's a little short. A UK 7 extra narrow would probably be a better fit.

    I'd like to figure out my sizing in the F last. Having read this whole thread... I'm trying to decide between a 40.5 and a 41. I'll probably pick up a standard width for fitting purposes rather than MTO a narrow right of the bat. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2015
  5. Shouldaville

    Shouldaville Senior member

    Messages:
    1,493
    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2013
    The 7.75 and narrow width complicate things. I'd start with the standard width 40.5 first. It may actually be perfect. If too short, 41 narrow may be the way to go. 41 standard will definitely be too big.
     
  6. Torsion

    Torsion Senior member

    Messages:
    498
    Joined:
    May 8, 2011
    Location:
    NYC
    

    Ok - you're pretty much close to my sizing, so this is my feedback. I have average ish foot shape so I can fit into most without too many issues.

    I wear UK6.5E for C&J 348/358 lasts and in the RL Marlow wingtip 325 (?) last I wear US7.5D - all three lasts fit ok however slight heel slippage for me

    When I first attempted Vass F - I went for 40.5EU which ended up slightly too big, long in the vamp and oxfords closed completey (search my photos on this thread). Gutted I was and another 6-8 weeks wait for the MTO to be re-made.
    I half sized down to 40EU which is perfect for me and incidently I wear 40EU in F, K and U lasts.

    The F last for me fits nice width wise and the OEII has the nicest heel fit in all the shoes I own.

    This thread has been on fire for a while now and it's been way too long since my last MTO!
     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2015
  7. Joenobody0

    Joenobody0 Senior member

    Messages:
    2,401
    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2010
    

    Thanks for the feedback. That's slightly surprising to hear. I have the same Marlows, which are indeed on the 325, but in a US 7D. They're definitely my smallest shoes, but I'm pretty sure that C&J/RL were only sizing them down .5 from the UK to US sizing - at least when I bought them. I have the Gifford from the same time and they where definitely a UK 6.5 to US 7 conversion and they're identical to my Marlows.

    As a counterpoint, both Gregg from NMWA and Mr Kuti suggest a 41 in the F!
     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2015
  8. hazwanazani

    hazwanazani Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    77
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2013
    Really? I'm quite surprised with that. 41 sounds way too big. I wear the exact same size as you Joe in the 325 last, and if you can still wear thick socks, you can definitely fit in a size 39.5 F last. This is the same size as @wurger I believe. The F last is slight more elongated and they feel snugger because of its tighter waist but it sounds like that might suit you since you have slimmer feet.

    I've attached some photos for comparison. F last oxford (39.5 EU) and 325 CJ Cavendish (6.5 UK). Both have standard widths.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2015
  9. Joenobody0

    Joenobody0 Senior member

    Messages:
    2,401
    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2010
    It's hard to argue with those photos. Thank you very much! I've avoided Vass because I wasted such a huge amount of money figuring out my Alden size, and I was actually able to try those on before buying...
     
  10. hazwanazani

    hazwanazani Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    77
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2013
    Sure no worries. Although, I only wear slim socks with them.
     
  11. wurger

    wurger Senior member

    Messages:
    2,887
    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2011
    Location:
    Sydney
    Hm, UK 6.5 in C&J would mean 40 in Vass F
     
    1 person likes this.
  12. Joenobody0

    Joenobody0 Senior member

    Messages:
    2,401
    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2010
    Mr Kuti is suggesting that I buy a pair to size and we swap out until we get to the optimal length. If the width works, great. If not, I'll exchange for a narrow. I have a high instep (I've never been able to come anywhere close to getting a nice "V" on a pair of bals, even ones that are too wide), so I'll probably start at 40.5 and see what's what.

    Now just to pick out a style and leather.
     
  13. Torsion

    Torsion Senior member

    Messages:
    498
    Joined:
    May 8, 2011
    Location:
    NYC
    

    I could be wrong about the Marlow size - will check tonight, could be 7D. Was just going by memory!
     
  14. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

    Messages:
    10,855
    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2013
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    not at you

    also, if Greg suggests a size, go with that. he has more experience than anyone on the last few pages - as he actually sells them, and has dealt with sizing through many customers

    FWIW -

    Carmina Simpson 8.5 (UK)
    AE 5 last 9.5 (US)
    Vass U and F - 42.5
     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2015
  15. TtownMD

    TtownMD Senior member

    Messages:
    6,261
    Joined:
    May 4, 2015
    Location:
    US
    
    Bud you are same size as me can you tell me what all sizes you take on Edward green or any other. I tried AE last 5 & strands 9.5D good snug fit. Bought vass DB she'll on k last size 43 hope they fit. You help would be greatly appricated.
     
  16. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

    Messages:
    36,650
    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2005
    Location:
    New York
    Did I? Did you provide the same info when I suggested a 41? If someone tells me he's a UK 6.5E in C&J, I would normally suggest a 40,5 in Vass F (maybe even 40 if the UK 6.5E is a tad roomy). If the forefoot is on the narrow side, also 40,5 in Vass U.
     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2015
  17. Joenobody0

    Joenobody0 Senior member

    Messages:
    2,401
    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2010
    

    I didn't mention my C&J size, as I hadn't had sufficient wear time on them to feel comfortable suggesting they fit. Here's what I said:
    " I comfortably wear a 7.5C (and maybe even a B) in the Alden Hampton last. I measure right in between a 7.5C and an 8B on the Brannock. Complicating things, I have a somewhat high arch."

    and your reply:
    "I would recommend a 41 in Vass F, based on your stats. I do not think that Vass has standard narrow fit F last for orders - I believe it's either regular or wide."
     
  18. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

    Messages:
    36,650
    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2005
    Location:
    New York
    Thanks - I remember now. The C&J size helps because I would otherwise equate 7.5-8 on the Brannock to 40.5-41 in Vass F. I believe we've also confirmed with Rezso that he could actually go down one width on the F last MTO, correct?
     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2015
  19. Joenobody0

    Joenobody0 Senior member

    Messages:
    2,401
    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2010
    

    Yep, one width RTW and two MTO.
     
  20. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

    Messages:
    36,650
    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2005
    Location:
    New York
    I think you mean one width RTW/MTO and two made-to-measure ?

    Anyhow - I'd probably go 40,5 narrow with your stats
     

Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by