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The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. mimo

    mimo Senior member

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    1. Colours of tanned leathers, and cordovan in particular, tend to be within a range of variations, so one "cigar" shell wouldn't necessarily be identical to another, just close.

    2. "Cigar" in Alden's shell cordovan terminology. It might be Horween's too, though I think they actually just give their colours numbers. Vass have their own colour terminology, so they will call their shell colours by the name of whatever is closest in their (more consistent) calf colours. For example, I've seen shoes made up in what appear to be "Saddle" and "Whisky" shell that have both been described by Vass as "Cognac".

    3. Therefore, even if Vass have a colour that Alden or even Horween call "Cigar", they will call it something else. My guess would be "Antic Cognac", as that's the leather colour in their range that it most closely resembles. My advice to you is to ask them to send some daylight pictures of the shells they have in stock.
     
  2. ghosty06

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    I agree with Mimo, but I contacted Vass and they mentioned they have in stock Cigar & Whiskey Shell from Horween in addition to their current offerings of Beaudeux, Anique Congac, Black.
     
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  4. sstomcat

    sstomcat Senior member

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    Vass also refers to cigar as brown shell. Per Vass Saddle, Whiskey and Cognac shell are three different colors, with whiskey and cognac almost very similar.
     
  5. ThinkDerm

    ThinkDerm Senior member

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    just to add some spice to this lovely thread:

    what model of Budapest is this? ...

    compared to the typical ones, the rear quarter is different - also the wing lines run parallel unlike in the other budapests ... nother odd thing ... color = MERLOT ... not a regular color of Vass

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    here a "regular" budapest ...
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    any thoughts?

    cheers, Al
     
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  7. Ironist

    Ironist Senior member

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    Does Vass have similar color ranges for Oxblood, Bordeaux, and Color 8 Shell or are people using these terms interchangeably?
     
  8. NAMOR

    NAMOR Senior member

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    i just ask for burgundy :rolleyes: but ive heard kuti refer to all of the above

    best to send a pic otherwise youre certain to get something else. thats not to say that specifying color gets what you want..
     
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  9. sstomcat

    sstomcat Senior member

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    Best is to use Bordeaux Shell, remember there is a light and dark shade of Bordeaux so good to be specific.
     
  10. Ironist

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    Thanks guys. They did get a picture and I requested oxblood shell so I hope I get a darker one. Kind of confusing though, I would think Oxblood = darker burgundy shell and Bordeaux = Lighter burgundy shell since that's what they do for calf.
     
  11. ThinkDerm

    ThinkDerm Senior member

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    The Vass shell set up is interesting.
     
  12. NAMOR

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    ^ hows the thickness of your shell? ive noticed the shell on both of my boots is pretty thin. i foresee busted seams and torn shell in the future :/
     
  13. ThinkDerm

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    thin cousin.
     
  14. NAMOR

    NAMOR Senior member

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    vass shell setup is :censored:
     
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    How did you determine this may I ask? Is it just the experience of owning many shell shoes and boots from a variety of makers?
     
  16. NAMOR

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    yeah feels thin to the touch. if i sandwich the shell with two fingers i can feel my finger pulsating through the shell. thin shell on the shaft wrinkles much faster and is at risk of tearing; must use shoe horn and unlace boot to avoid risk of busted vertical seam. shell thickness varies from hide to hide and then the hide can be uneven itself. I have seen shell as thick as 2 mm on the shaft of my unlined wolverine boot but my vass boot lined shaft is just under 1mm. C&J, wolverine, vass, etc doesnt have piping so you can compare side by side
     
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  17. NAMOR

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    Could anyone point me to any photos of a vass shoe with a 360 degree flat welt? All the shoes I see have a closed heel and 270 degree flat welt. Not sure if I've seen it or it's offered even
     
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  18. joshsx

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    Just received over the weekend. Fresh out of the boxes.

    Briefcase 02 - Black Calf / Black Velour
    Roma - Oxblood Calf / Black Velour

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    + a few belts
     
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  19. skeen7908

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    Is it just the angle of thhe photo or is the centre tip of the austerity line thing off-centre? (Second photo, shoe for left foot)
     
  20. Shouldaville

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    I just asked about that as well. There may have been some miscommunication, but I was told the only one that could be done with an open heel was the 360 goyser. All others have the 360 internal stitching with the 270 welt and closed wooden nail heel.

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