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The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. mimo

    mimo Pernicious Enabler

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    Great post, Bengal! I don't have an especially high instep, but do find some modern last shapes too low over the vamp....my foot is shaped much more like that red dotted line. Bestetti's shoes are stunning, but look like torture to me...
     


  2. aspasp

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    Passing by Budapest this weekend, worthwhile to go to Vass? I'm a college student, not sure if I should get something at this point in my life...what do you guys think?
     


  3. Ilovelobbs

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    You must be a well funded college student to be following the Vass thread...


    Also - anyone know where I can pick up a pair of Bestetti's online?
    My google search brings me nothing. I don't mind proxy or ebay.
    Just need a pair for my collection...the right size would be nice too.
     


  4. Ilovelobbs

    Ilovelobbs Senior Member

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    Is there a computer program that can produce a 3-d diagram of your foot contour to the nearest mm, similar to what Bengal just posted above?

    Imagine if I can send this to any bespoke maker, wouldn't this reduce the besoke prices down dramatically.
     


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    When I was a college student I dreamed of being able to one day pick up a pair of Allen Edmonds. But hey, if you can comfortably acquire a pair of Vass at this stage, why not?
     


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    After Vass, there is still plenty of brands to pay with in the future, go for it if money is no problem.

    BTW, generalization of poor students are pretty absurd.
     


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  8. mimo

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    There are such things as 3D scanners, and Spring Line (Northampton last maker) can use such scans to develop lasts for your foot. Which you could then have made and sent to the bespoke maker of your choice. You could get trees made to match. But I suppose there is still room for error, depending on how you're standing, your weight distribution, and of course how you like your shoes to fit. Plus making the last shape - after all it's a last you're making, not just a foot model, so if the toe shape is too long or the sole not fitted square against your foot, you'll still be unhappy.

    Another option might be to make a cast of your foot and let a bespoke maker develop a last from it, but I'm sure that's even more open to imperfection. Spring Line will also make you a last based on a plaster cast.

    I like the idea of the first option though. I read somewhere that Lodger (with Lutwyche tailors on Clifford Street, London), have a 3D foot scanner, and you can take a reading from them to send to Spring Line. Alternatively, you can go to Spring Line in Northampton and have them measure you up in the conventional way. I think they charge about £200 for a set of lasts.

    If anyone knows any other places where one can get a 3D foot scan, I'd be interested to know.
     


  9. Concordia

    Concordia Distinguished Member Dubiously Honored

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    If the funds are there, why not? They're an excellent investment relative to similar-priced shoes, and much cheaper than most other hand-mades. See if the F, P2, or R fit you-- if so, you'll have your date night/funeral/job interview pair taken care of for a long time. Black Old English plain oxfords, and you're set. A second pair of something more casual if you have the budget.
     
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    I've recently ordered a pair of Bestettis, from his semi-bespoke line Novecento, directly from Riccardo. You'll find his e-mail adress on his site.He is a pleasure to deal with, not that good in English, but managable. Got this response regarding prices (don't think he will mind me posting them here):

    "RTW € 600.00 € 100.00 blackberries Blake pei the shoe tree, and shipping € 50.00
    MTO blake € 900.00 € 100.00 blackberries shoe tree and shipping € 50.00
    MTO good year € 1,200.00 including tree she blackberries shipping € 50.00
    € 1,500.00 Novecento shoe tree including blackberries shipping € 50.00"


    Novecento includes the making of a test shoe. My test shoe pair is being made right now, really looking forward 'til I have the finished shoes on my feet.
     
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  12. mimo

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    What's with the blackberries?!
     


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    1200 for rtw, as beautiful as freccia's work is, is not double the quality of vass for double the price. If your going to spend that, go bespoke, paolo scafora is in that price range
     


  14. j ingevaldsson

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    Honestly? Don't know...
     


  15. j ingevaldsson

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    Well, triple the price of Vass... (if we're talking their RTW/MTO) I know there's plenty of bespoke makers who are cheaper or around the same price as those Bestettis. Own a pair from Jan Kielman myself, which were about €1000. For example Ugolini, Maftei and Koronya are around the price of €1200 as starting price. But I do have a certain thing for Bestetti, and have always admired his shoes and loved to own a pair myself, but real bespoke from him are out of my price range. And with the mentioned makers I would have to take into account at least two travels to their countries, so that adds a lot to the price. We have bespoke-maker Janne Melkersson here in Sweden, which I have been interested in ordering a pair from. Some day I might, he's shoes start around €2000.
     
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