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The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. archangle13

    archangle13 Senior Member

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    There's a difference between MTO and MTM?
     


  2. chogall

    chogall Distinguished Member

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    What deformed features you have on your feet?
     


  3. Ilovelobbs

    Ilovelobbs Senior Member

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    Sorry, is this a question?
     


  4. Ilovelobbs

    Ilovelobbs Senior Member

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    The PII is wider - than the F last. I have tried both the P2, P3 and F last.

    The P last is Vass refined facelift to their traditional budapester last, without
    compromising on the width and comfortable fitting. Personally I find the P last
    more appealing than the hammer head Budapester Last.
     
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  5. archangle13

    archangle13 Senior Member

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    Yup, I'm unsure of the difference. Right now it just seems like a difference in the degree of customization.
     


  6. Ilovelobbs

    Ilovelobbs Senior Member

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    You're correct - with shoes there probably 3 types of orders: RTW; MTO and Bespoke...

    More recently you have Cleverleys coming out with Semi-bespoke. Gods know what that means.
    To me, if it's already made and comes in your size, then it's a RTW....everything else is PR spin to
    justify price hikes. .
     
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  8. Mr. Pink

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    What's your take on the P3?
     


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    What is the P3 last?
     


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    I have a couple pairs on the F. I also like the look of the P2 and the fact that it is a touch wider. What is the instep like on the P2? High?Low?
     


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    Instep height is my primary concern for all lasts - if anyone knows enough to rank them comparatively from high to low, I'd be most grateful.
     


  12. sdolina

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    F has a slightly higher instep than P2, don't have others.

    By the way - this is a comparison of U, F and P2 from the Shoegazing blog

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    This MTO is still pretty low cost compared with other brands.
     


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    They are quite different. U has a high instep, AE 5 has a low instep. U has very little toe room, AE 5 has plenty. AE 5 toe shape is more like F last, U last is square / chiseled.
     


  15. FrankCowperwood

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    Considering a Budapest last norweger loafer in scotch grain. Any thoughts from the gentlemen here in goyser sewing on this and double versus single sole?
     


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