The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. dlind

    dlind Senior member

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    sounds reasonable, will have to look into that!
     


  2. UnreasonableMan

    UnreasonableMan Well-Known Member

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    This would be a good idea, a the U Last is a great last, and rounded toe version of it would fill in the gap imo between the U and F last. The k last seems redundant, like a too pointy u last. Their boot options could benefit from a chelsea model, as well as a jodhpur. And lastly, though not that big a deal, the edge dressing could be varied a bit. They seem use edge dressing that makes the sole one solid color be it black, or brown, and some styles would look better imo with the edge dressing that allows you to still the variation from one layer to next on the heels. I hope I explained that last part correctly. Actually is this something that they offer because I have not seen a pair that wasn't how I described with the solid color edge dressing. It makes all the shoes look very conservative, and at times boring.
     


  3. Frank the sheep

    Frank the sheep Senior member

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    Comment was to what EG would say. They were the frosty ones in your post :)
     


  4. sstomcat

    sstomcat Senior member

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    well put.
     


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    chogall Senior member

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  6. Ilovelobbs

    Ilovelobbs Senior member

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    I spoke to Razor, and suggest they call their new last: "U2"

    Will be posting my boots once my DSLR arrives...
     


  7. Ilovelobbs

    Ilovelobbs Senior member

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    I have been told its a blended version of the R and P2 last....

    3636 is a "friendlier" version of the Chunky Budapester last.
     


  8. CHRK33

    CHRK33 Senior member

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    What is up with all the sudden hate against Leffot and Epaulet? I have had some not stellar interactions with Leffot, but Mike and Epaulet have always been fantastic and very customer-service oriented.
     


  9. FrankCowperwood

    FrankCowperwood Senior member

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    Agree.

    It seems unnecessary to call them gougers when they are simply running businesses.

    Yes, if you compare the price of a Carmina makeup from Epaulet (my frame of reference) and something similar from Carmina's Web shop, there's clearly a margin built in for Mike's time and effort and profit. Perfectly reasonable, as long as the price suits the buyer. And frankly, I don't even think it's that large a margin, once you take all costs of ordering yourself into consideration and include the fact that Carmina adds a 50% markup to MTOs now. Whether Carmina's prices are fair for the product is beyond my judgement, except to say that I own their shoes and boots.

    A related point is that we as individual buyers and, I assume, proxies as small operators have the chance, whether through luck or otherwise, to minimize duty, taxes, and brokerage fees. All of these are a legal necessity for a business importer such as Epaulet. I'm not arguing that any of these additional costs are fair, necessary, etc., but they are the legal status quo.

    I'm going to guess that the SF members who proxy Vass are including some margin in their pricing to cover costs and beyond as well. Again, perfectly fair and the customer will decide if their services are valuable at the price quoted.

    Anyway, I'm pretty happy with my first and so far only buying experience from Vass and I am looking forward to a second purchase. For the moment, my interest is in the more traditional lasts and the array of choices seems far more than enough to keep me occupied for a while.

    Finally, I agree that there should be payment methods beyond wire transfer. It's not the worst way to pay, and the appeal will depend on how pricing might change so that Vass would cover its fees associated with accepting credit cards or PayPal. But I do think the prospect of having to initiate a wire transfer is a step that will prevent at least some potential buyers from following through.
     


  10. RogerP

    RogerP Senior member

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    The gouging comment seems grossly unfair to me. Nobody is forced to buy from a proxy seller. You don't like the price? Move on. Buy direct from Vass or shop another brand. You have choices. Obviously there are enough buyers willing to pay a premium for immediate delivery of an in-stock, ready-to-ship item, with quick and convenient payment options. Nobody is getting gouged.
     


  11. Roguls

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    I agree with you. I'm ambivalent. I have a pair coming from Thom (the starter of this discussion). Perhaps I'll try Razor next (I have a suede boot in mind).
     


  12. Roguls

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    Frank, don't sell yourself short. Carmina, at Alden prices, are fair. At 20-30% higher, are priced high for a comparable (dare I say it - inferior at times) product.

    Vass at the same price (even less expensive) is a no-brainer.

    Vass could attempt to source some different leathers, though.
     


  13. FrankCowperwood

    FrankCowperwood Senior member

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    Well a good portion of the value in both Vass and Carmina, to me, is that they are very customer oriented. Vass more so it seems, and at a very good price for an excellent product. That combination of quality, service, and price is what attracts me to the brand. Oh and I think the shoes are beautiful, as well.
     


  14. Odd I/O

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    Who's Razor and what's his contact information? And was the €95 shipping for one pair of shoes?
     


  15. n-domino

    n-domino Senior member

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    His name is Rezso Kuti and he is the sales manager of the shop. I am located in the states and was charged 45$ to ship one pair of shoes.
     


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