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The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. bboysdontcryy

    bboysdontcryy Senior member

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    LOL! Nice comeback. But seriously, gyasih, it'd do us a huge favour if you could upload clearer pictures.
     


  2. gyasih

    gyasih Senior member

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    I'll attempt to do clearer pics tomorrow, I won't be able to address identifying colors until later this week. There was another post #4725 or something that had leather samples too.
    Here are some raw pictures.

    The second one is definitely 6319, moving from left to right.
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    Black, Blue, Oxblood and Dark Brown from right to left.
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  3. sm31

    sm31 Senior member

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    You don't need a DSLR here. Just do it in good, preferably shaded (e.g. not direct sunlight), daylight.
     


  4. sstomcat

    sstomcat Senior member

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    I can take a crack....
    Top Left to right - Antique Cognac, 6319 Cognac, 6125 Cognac, NO IDEA, Bordeaux, Dark Brown, Black, Blue, rest difficult...
    Bottom L-R - Bordeaux,Cognac, Dark Brown, Blue, Black all pebblegrain

    Will be interesting to see how many correct I got..
     


  5. Roguls

    Roguls Senior member

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    haha, touche!
     


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    Pliny Senior member

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    lol - had a feeling u guys know each other well. great poster, he's missed
     


  7. mimo

    mimo Pernicious Enabler

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    Come back, SoS!

    I also want to know more about this gemming failure business...an idiot guide to what's gemmed, what isn't, and how to know if it's failed. But maybe that should be another thread...
     


  8. chogall

    chogall Senior member

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    Search function is your friend.

    Aside from gemming failure, EG and G&G use heat molded stiffener on toes and JL on toe and heel cup, where better made shoes uses leather.
     


  9. mimo

    mimo Pernicious Enabler

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    Blow me :p

    Anyway, interesting. Really that surprises me given their price point. So, back to the thread subject, where does Vass stand on these various issues?
     


  10. archangle13

    archangle13 Senior member

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    Can Vass modify the instep slightly for MTO?

    Does the F last has a slightly smaller instep than the U last?


    Oh yea, any pictures of gemming failure? How are we to identify it?
     


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    Swede66 Senior member

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    According to the sales manager at Vass F has a higher instep than U.
    Just received a mail from him on exactly this subject.
     


  12. Gdot

    Gdot Senior member

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    ALL goodyear welted RTW shoes made in England are gemmed. Including top of the line Lobb, EG and G&G. There are very few RTW makers who hand welt or who use a leather welt.

    If you are a purist who wants a truly handcrafted shoe and wishes to spend less than $1000 for it the most obvious choice is Vass. Although there are other small scale makers in this price point.

    Another fine option if you fear the gemming are shoes made in the blake rapid construction. Scads of Italian makers use this method although with the Italian makers one must be very careful to verify the construction methods as they often work in a multitude of methods and don't often make it known what method they use.

    Personally I don't believe gemming to be inherently 'bad' as it has been the primary method of manufacture for 50 plus years in the factory manufacture of goodyear welted shoes. If it were the travesty that some people around here seem to think it is we would not have so little evidence of it's terrible inferiority. I think one would be well advised to take a more detailed/nuanced approach in their judgement of what makes a quality shoe and understand that even with gemming there will be differences in the quality of the materials used and the care of the workmanship, just as there is with handwelting.
     


  13. rikod

    rikod Senior member

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    Vass shell, from left saddle, burgundy, saddle, whiskey and burgundy

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  14. add911_11

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    What an asshole
     


  15. SHS

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    WTF? He's trying to help as good as he can and contributes with valuable information IMO.
     


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