Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Jul 24, 2009.
These look really swell, are you buying directly from Vass or through a proxy?
Gyasih, great choice, don't think you can go wrong with those in Oxblood, which BTW in office lighting comes across as a very dark, almost black, and in bright sun kind of purplish or aubergine.
AFAIK Bordeaux and Burgundy are the same thing, and also have quite a purplish/red tinge, tho much brighter than Oxblood. The closest Vass color to a traditional burgundy, like say a shell No 8, is 6125 'Dark Cognac', which doesn't come across well in those otherwise terrific color charts. IMO the Dark Cognac is the Vass color that goes with just about any trouser- all greys, blues and tans. The Vass burgundy and 'Red Cognac' are too bright for my taste.
^^ I think I will settle for Oxblood. If all goes well, Dark Cognac may be my next choice. Thanks for the advice.
It's interesting how everyone is recommending 44 in F-last and Vass recommended 44.5, based on the following-external measurements (104 last) are 31.8cm x 11cm, and the internal measurements are 30cm x 10.5cm.
Oxblood in that style is up there with the nicest shoes in all Christendom. BTW re: sizing- I've definitely noticed some settling and stretching over time, so if you go too tight you might be okay if you're just patient. On the other hand if yo go too loose it's usually nothing that a nice leather insert won't fix. I have 3 Vass lasts in 2 diff sizes and am quite happy with the variety. When I want something smaller, with a sharper suit, I'll use the smaller shoes, but when I wear something more casual, or with a wider trouser hem, I'll go for the larger size. This may seem odd, but it works for me. As a matter of fact I like having the shoes slightly large because the leather insert cushions my step.
How much directly from Vass? Also, will they ship thru carrier other than FedEx?
If you are 10.5 in AS shoes, you should probably go with 44.5 on F last.
It came out to 5-something. I haven't gotten the final price and I have to include my bank's $45 wire transfer fee.
No, they won't ship thru anyone else. I am hoping I don't get charged again considering I just got a package several months ago so they shouldn't need anything else from me. Or I will try an broker myself.
I wear a 10UK in AS.
You will most definitely get charged by FedEx, I have yet to receive anything and not be charged and I think it is 8 percent for shoes. You may want to use a proxy then, might be worth it.
UK10.5 in AS = 44.5 on F I agree
But FYI u can just order in UK size
then you need a 44
Thanks for all the sizing help. Medwed, interesting that you should suggest 39.5 - I was thinking either 40 or 40.5 in U or K last. The two pairs that were on the F and in 41 were about a size too big, so I guessed that 40.5 would be correct for U/K since I have been reading suggestions to half-size up from F.
Also, is that color that everyone marvels over "antique cognac" or "6125 cognac"? I know this may sound vague, but lots seem to say that it's one of Vass' best colors. I thought there was only one "antique cognac" color until I saw the color chart on the previous page. There's this beautiful pair of austerity brogues posted some time ago that I really like - I'll get the photo later (at work). I thought they're antique cognac but now I'm not sure if they're 6125...
Can't speak for what 'lots seem to say' but IMO it's 6125 'Dark Cognac' which is most versatile & most like a generic burgundy.
In this pic Dark Cognac is in the middle, Antic Cognac is on the outside. Antic Cognac has a lot more brown in it. Click and enlarge pics for better look.
^^ Antic Cog
These are the pair of austerity brogues I was mentioning. I'll base my MTO on this; but I'm still deciding between antique cognac and 6125 dark cognac. I'm leaning more towards antique though - I owned a pair of oxfords that were a size too big in antique cognac and I really liked that color.
^ Antique is the way to go, no question about it
It seems all of us know that Vass is one of the trickiest brands in terms of sizing. I was wondering would it help forum members to determine their sizes if someone took the measurements of the lasts (U,F,K ,P2 etc.) in the sizes offered by Vass based on the following:
5) Arch; and
6) Through the heel
This is illustrated in this picture (though measurements will betaken on a last rather then on an actual foot as illustrated below).
I have a friend in Budapest whose studio is just 10 minutes away from the Vass shop and he is willing to help me out on this. Was just wondering whether this would be helpful in helping to determine the sizing for Vass or will it be a waste of time.
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