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The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. NAMOR

    NAMOR Senior member

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    +1 their seems to be some sort of "shell equilibrium" to which all colors gravitate towards

    whiskey -> ravello -> SHELL EQUILIBRIUM <-cigar <-#8
     
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  2. thecentennial

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    Very good NAMOR - so can I expect my whiskey's to turn into ravello? I could stick them on a sun bed to expedite the darkening..
     
  3. fritzl

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    afaik, alden shell is different to this.
     
  4. SHS

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    I could not live with this. I think I will have to go to Budapest and try them on if I want some Vass. :)
     
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  5. Pliny

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    +1 - I've been sent a single monk when i ordered a double, an Oxford when I ordered a Blucher, and the wrong color a couple times. c'est la vie mes amis- c'est la Vass
     
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  6. bengal-stripe

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    This is not Vass-specific (with whom I have very little experience) but applies to a number of craftsmen or firms in various parts of the world.

    In theory, in these days of instant communication every special order ought to be accompanied by a conformation of what was discussed and what was agreed. If the order is taken face to face, the craftsman is taken down the agreed specifications and the client should be given a copy, which can be either a computer print-out or a photocopy of the order sheet. Not forgetting the approximate completion date which also should be given in writing. If the order was given by e-mail, it might take several mails back and forth until all the details are clarified. Nevertheless once everything is clear, the conformation with all the specifications should be forthcoming. This “contract” should be binding to both parties, unless at a later date some alterations or changes have been mutually agreed.

    Unfortunately there are quite a few firms who for whatever reason (be it sloppiness or arrogance) come up with goods that are different from what was agreed. It wouldn’t be the first time that a customer on Savile Row who had ordered hacking pockets, was presented with straight ones (or vice versa). In these cases of miscommunication with nothing in writing (apart from the firm’s squiggles) it is very difficult to establish where the boo-boo has occurred.

    If the firm is not forthcoming with a confirmation of the agreed details, send them you own list of the agreed specifications by e-mail. If, for one reason or another, the finished product deviates from these specifications, you have a much stronger base to argue your case from. You can still accept the product as is, but at least you can negotiate a discount.

    I do not agree with the “don’t rock the boat” attitude that has been expressed here. If the company has made a mistake, they will have to rectify it (one way or the other). If you let them get away with it, they will never tighten their house-internal quality control.
     
  7. rikod

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    Very interesting and I agree completely. I Vass case this is what I normally do " dear xxx, I received the shoes, they are great as always and fit well, however i ordered natural edge soles and came painted so I'm very dissapointed", they always offer an exchange or to fix the problem, or a discount, so they respond very well to the situation with courtesy, they are extremely polite and have even called me (to the US) to apologize. what I never do is fight or sent nasty letters, I just don't feel that's the best way, I really like them.

    I don't know, sometimes it seems like if the craftsman does not like something he doesn't want to do it :) , I once ordered a nice grain bordeaux pair with a double sole and came back with double to single, I complained and got a discount, but know I wouldn't change it back to double, I love them now. In any case, I'm always happy except variation in sizes and that doesn't happen anymore as they have my measures. Always good to have confirmation emails but not to ask for too many details or changes.
     
  8. NAMOR

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    The sun only lightens I think. Just wear your shoes, and brush with the same brush you use for darker shell. After time the oils will darken your whiskey. Honestly, you got the best color man. I envy you. Gimme my precious. Lol
     
  9. Kai

    Kai Senior member

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    Laszlo Vass bespoke Budapester in cognac boxcalf leather

    [​IMG]
     
  10. NAMOR

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    Vass norweger: should i go with whiskey or antique cognac? thinking of getting it on the F last, similar to slickmans
     
  11. Slewfoot

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    Those are awesome. Is that color dark cognac or antique cognac?
     
  12. Slewfoot

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    I'd lean towards Whiskey and on the New Peter last. It really depends on which last fits you better though.
     
  13. NAMOR

    NAMOR Senior member

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    this will be my first pair of VASS so im actually unsure of how to size

    Im a TTS 12D

    UK11.5 in EG
    UK11.5 in G&G
    UK11 in C&J 337
    UK10.5 in C&J 348
    UK11 in C&J 341
    UK11 in Carmina
    UK11 in JL 8695
    UK11.5 in JL 8000
    UK11 in JL 7000

    Which size should I get in the New Peter last? Also, F? do the italian lasts fit similarly?
     
  14. rikod

    rikod Senior member

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    ^ most likely 44.5 in both imo
     
  15. Henkie

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    I've got basically the same list of sizes as you, and I ordered a pair on the U-last in 45.5, that ended up being about a half-size too small, but that's mostly because I have relatively wide feet. I'm unsure how exactly that translates to the New Peter or the F lasts, but I doubt getting anything smaller than 45 would be wise.
     
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    i hope you haven't been surprised. i agree with the 45 assessment for the colleague.
     
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  17. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    If you really wear UK11.5 in JL8000 and in EG's sleeker lasts, you're a 46 in U last and a 45.5 in F. Not sure about New Peter.

    Also, I would be quite concerned about the Italian lasts in that kind of size - they don't look the best in the larger sizes IMO
     
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  18. Slewfoot

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    I agree. I'm a 44 in U last and a 43.5 in F last and I wouldn't want them any bigger.

    If you're feet are on the wider side I'd lean towards a 45. If on the narrow side a 44.5 might do it especially with shell which can sometimes run big.
     
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  19. rikod

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    this is correct, if your feet are wide + high instep could be a 45, but I can almost guarantee anything bigger than that will be big, except maybe the U last.
     
  20. NAMOR

    NAMOR Senior member

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    this is some serious shoe
     

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