The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. luk-cha

    luk-cha Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Vash offers a higher variety of Shell colours and MTO patterns with a reasonable premium.
    While you can only get regular Shell models from Alden vendors.
    Both are great shoes and great value for the money.


    go on say it, Vash are the best thro'[​IMG]
     
  2. maomao1980

    maomao1980 Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    go on say it, Vash are the best thro'[​IMG]

    Don't, it can get him into trouble
     
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    we= I + what I assume the guy who agreed with me meant. I'm not going to go through your posts, you've done this several times, enough in fact for it to be one of your defining characteristics on the board. As I said I don't hate you or anything and the makers you discuss make really nice shoes, I just don't care about what you have to say about say, Corthay. I don't know what gemming means...
    well put, agreed
     
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    fritzl Senior member

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    I think you missed the point. Admittedly, you know far more than I know (or that I'd ever care to know) about shoes. I just tire of the constant swipes at shoes unlucky enough to have been made by someone other than "Mr. Kiss." We understand; the world would be a much better place if we all wore hand-made Austrian shoes (which, conveniently, you happen to sell, another fact you're fond of repeating). I actually really like them, and will look into buying a pair when I get a chance, but you come off like a pedantic, repetitive boor.

    probably you made some valid points and i'll think over my "shoevinism".

    operation paprika is a very special and emotional project to me. a learning process in progress.

    back to vass, agreed?
     
  5. luk-cha

    luk-cha Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    probably you made some valid points and i'll think over my "shoevinism".

    operation paprika is a very special and emotional project to me. a learning process in progress.

    back to vass, agreed?


    +1 jia you!!!!![​IMG]
     
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    walneal Senior member

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    go on say it, Vash are the best thro'[​IMG]

    Don't, it can get him into trouble

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
    They are all good stuffs, you get what you paid!
     
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    kolecho Senior member

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    They are all good stuffs, you get what you paid!


    I agree with YGWYP!
     
  8. Sterling Gillette

    Sterling Gillette Senior member

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    What we're saying is that we're happy about the knowledge you provide regarding those makers but that you tend to dismiss other well designed and more than decently made shoes. You suffer from shoevinism...

    who is we?

    ...and for the second part please give me one or more examples. thanks

    btw, is gemming the new black?


    +1

    Fritzl and Sterling's condescension towards shoes not made by hand by old Austrian men is obnoxious.


    probably you made some valid points and i'll think over my "shoevinism".

    operation paprika is a very special and emotional project to me. a learning process in progress.

    back to vass, agreed?


    Ok, a lot of strong words here. About shoes. This could never hapen in real life.

    I think, fritzl is sometimes misunderstood (deliberately). He does not "hate" all shoes which are made by non-austro-hungarian makers. He is simply trying to point out that any discussion about "value for money" etc. we are leading here is useless without saying that there is almost no place left but Vienna/Budapest where you can buy a shoe that hasn't seen any machine in its whole genesis. Fuuma et al. might think slightly different about fancy sole finish and tapered schnickschnack had they ever seen a passionate one-person shoemaking business in real life. I mean, we can discuss oh-so beautiful EG, G&G and Sutor shoes ad infnitium -- at the end of the day, they are all nothing more but generic. Anyone willing to spend the money can buy them. Of course, he is buying shoes then that are much more precious and solid than 99% of the population but he still has bought a mass market-oriented product.

    And FWIW: So far, fritzl is not really selling shoes, he is proxying undelivered bespoke orders largely without profit. His interest in shoemaking is by no means a commercial one. So I've got to learn in various discussions with him in the last half of a year.

    Now, back to those Vass shoes!
     
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    I have no real desire to continue this, but that was, again, a rather condescending and self-important post. Let me paraphrase: "If you simpletons only knew what we true shoe connoisseurs do, you would realize how pathetic your "prestigious" Lobbs appear. Now go forth and be saved from mass-market consumerism."
    Ok, a lot of strong words here. About shoes. This could never hapen in real life. I think, fritzl is sometimes misunderstood (deliberately). He does not "hate" all shoes which are made by non-austro-hungarian makers. He is simply trying to point out that any discussion about "value for money" etc. we are leading here is useless without saying that there is almost no place left but Vienna/Budapest where you can buy a shoe that hasn't seen any machine in its whole genesis. Fuuma et al. might think slightly different about fancy sole finish and tapered schnickschnack had they ever seen a passionate one-person shoemaking business in real life. I mean, we can discuss oh-so beautiful EG, G&G and Sutor shoes ad infnitium -- at the end of the day, they are all nothing more but generic. Anyone willing to spend the money can buy them. Of course, he is buying shoes then that are much more precious and solid than 99% of the population but he still has bought a mass market-oriented product. And FWIW: So far, fritzl is not really selling shoes, he is proxying undelivered bespoke orders largely without profit. His interest in shoemaking is by no means a commercial one. So I've got to learn in various discussions with him in the last half of a year. Now, back to those Vass shoes!
     
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    now is vass did a full doulbe sole on both the F and U lasts that would be great, but they dont so for some - not alot of choice!
    Sorry but what does this mean? I never had Vass decline to use a double sole on my U-lasted shoes. [​IMG]
     
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    I have no real desire to continue this, but that was, again, a rather condescending and self-important post. Let me paraphrase:
    +1
     
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    Ok, a lot of strong words here. About shoes. This could never hapen in real life.

    I think, fritzl is sometimes misunderstood (deliberately). He does not "hate" all shoes which are made by non-austro-hungarian makers. He is simply trying to point out that any discussion about "value for money" etc. we are leading here is useless without saying that there is almost no place left but Vienna/Budapest where you can buy a shoe that hasn't seen any machine in its whole genesis. Fuuma et al. might think slightly different about fancy sole finish and tapered schnickschnack had they ever seen a passionate one-person shoemaking business in real life. I mean, we can discuss oh-so beautiful EG, G&G and Sutor shoes ad infnitium -- at the end of the day, they are all nothing more but generic. Anyone willing to spend the money can buy them. Of course, he is buying shoes then that are much more precious and solid than 99% of the population but he still has bought a mass market-oriented product.

    And FWIW: So far, fritzl is not really selling shoes, he is proxying undelivered bespoke orders largely without profit. His interest in shoemaking is by no means a commercial one. So I've got to learn in various discussions with him in the last half of a year.

    Now, back to those Vass shoes!



    I cant begin to tell you on how much i disagree with this post, it also comes across as pompous and as previously mentioned so condescending. I wonder how many people at both EG & G&G realise that , in certain quarters, that the shoes they are producing are both merely generic and mass market oriented product????? Ive never heard such much twaddle poppycock and BS all in one post.

    I may not love the styling of a lot of the Austro Hungarian efforts posted on these forums but i can certainly appreciate the workmanship and craftmanship.

    Back to VASS , what a wonderful thread full of so many beautiful works of art !! Compliments to all who have bothered to post their beauties.
     
  13. furo

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    Well I got my Vass Whiskey Shell PTBs in today from a fellow SFer who sold em NIB to me, came with the original box, lasted trees, and shoebags ... but best of all, they fit like gloves!

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    Looks great, furo.


    - B
     
  15. luk-cha

    luk-cha Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Sorry but what does this mean? I never had Vass decline to use a double sole on my U-lasted shoes. [​IMG]

    well i just wanted a double sole, no goyser welt etc, just a double sole - not a double tappering to a single or as EG call it a HAF sole, just a double sole - a common old boring double sole!

    or basically a sole like fritzls ;-)
     

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