The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

[shahtirthak]

Good day All,

Looking for some sizing advice on Vass Shoes, BP Last, especially the width.

Do not have any Vass shoes yet but am eyeing a pair of 'London' dress shoes in Antique Scotch Grain on sale in size EU46.5/UK12.5/US13.5 and wondering whether it will fit or if I should wait for EU47/UK13/US14 when I wear comfortably the following sizes in other brands :

C&J 325 (Conistons) & 365 (Islay) : UK13
Trickers Stow : UK 13 Fit 5
Trickers Bourton : UK 12 (since UK12.5 is not available and UK13 is big and too voluminous)
Cheaney 4436 (Pennine II) : UK13G
Viberg 2030 : Viberg 13
White's 5050 : US12.5EE
Alden Trubalance : US13D
Allen Edmonds 1757 Higgins Mill : US13E
Grant Stone Leo : US13E

My concern is whether the EU46.5 will be short and narrow in comparision to the above sizes or equivalent as the website lists the BP last as "round and comfortable with high toe".

Thanks in advance,
Tirthak

 

[BlueSteel]

Good day All,

Looking for some sizing advice on Vass Shoes, BP Last, especially the width.

Do not have any Vass shoes yet but am eyeing a pair of 'London' dress shoes in Antique Scotch Grain on sale in size EU46.5/UK12.5/US13.5 and wondering whether it will fit or if I should wait for EU47/UK13/US14 when I wear comfortably the following sizes in other brands :

C&J 325 (Conistons) & 365 (Islay) : UK13
Trickers Stow : UK 13 Fit 5
Trickers Bourton : UK 12 (since UK12.5 is not available and UK13 is big and too voluminous)
Cheaney 4436 (Pennine II) : UK13G
Viberg 2030 : Viberg 13
White's 5050 : US12.5EE
Alden Trubalance : US13D
Allen Edmonds 1757 Higgins Mill : US13E
Grant Stone Leo : US13E

My concern is whether the EU46.5 will be short and narrow in comparision to the above sizes or equivalent as the website lists the BP last as "round and comfortable with high toe".

Thanks in advance,
Tirthak

You should wait.

My foot is wider than standard (US E to EE). There are no Vass lasts designed to fit such wide feet. The only lasts for me that are even close to wearable are BP and 3636. BP is not much more than a US "D" width for the given size. It is not even an "E" width. And the BP last is also a touch short.

IMO your only chance for a shoe from Vass that will fit your feet is to try BP or 3636 in your full regular size (even then it might be a tight squeeze).

 

[shahtirthak]

You should wait.

My foot is wider than standard (US E to EE). There are no Vass lasts designed to fit such wide feet. The only lasts for me that are even close to wearable are BP and 3636. BP is not much more than a US "D" width for the given size. It is not even an "E" width. And the BP last is also a touch short.

IMO your only chance for a shoe from Vass that will fit your feet is to try BP or 3636 in your full regular size (even then it might be a tight squeeze).

Thanks for your response, much appreciated. Basis your insights into the Vass lasts I would rather avoid them for the moment.

I have the same question about the Heinrich Dinckelacker lasts as well and will post in any HD threads I can find !!

 

[Pascal1980]

Thanks for your response, much appreciated. Basis your insights into the Vass lasts I would rather avoid them for the moment.

I have the same question about the Heinrich Dinckelacker lasts as well and will post in any HD threads I can find !!

About the HD lasts from my experience:

- the "Milano" last is the smallest one for normal feet. It is still relativly wide at the instep, if you have a low instep. In my size UK 7 / EU 41 it fits my narrow to normal foot very well. It is a sleeker Italien last with an almond toe and thus less space in the forefoot for narrow to normal feet. I think it is still "wide" for a narrow last, but that is true for all HD lasts and I have low-volume feet anyway.

- the "Luzern" last is the most popular last of the normal width lasts of HD, because it has a rounder almond toe and thus more space in the toe box. It is an English last.

- the "Zurich" last is the normal width Budapester last with a classic round toe box and ample space above the toes. It is by far not a volumenous last as the wide "Rio" or "Buda" Budapester lasts. It is meant to be a modern Budapester last for normal feet.

I hope that helps as I wear these lasts.

Best regards

Pascal

 

[shahtirthak]

About the HD lasts from my experience:

- the "Milano" last is the smallest one for normal feet. It is still relativly wide at the instep, if you have a low instep. In my size UK 7 / EU 41 it fits my narrow to normal foot very well. It is a sleeker Italien last with an almond toe and thus less space in the forefoot for narrow to normal feet. I think it is still "wide" for a narrow last, but that is true for all HD lasts and I have low-volume feet anyway.

- the "Luzern" last is the most popular last of the normal width lasts of HD, because it has a rounder almond toe and thus more space in the toe box. It is an English last.

- the "Zurich" last is the normal width Budapester last with a classic round toe box and ample space above the toes. It is by far not a volumenous last as the wide "Rio" or "Buda" Budapester lasts. It is meant to be a modern Budapester last for normal feet.

I hope that helps as I wear these lasts.

Best regards

Pascal

Thanks Pascal for your insights and experience with HD. I have big, wide feet and a higher than avg instep and hence my interest is more in the wider lasts.
Basically which lasts could come the closest to Alden Trubalance in which I wear US13D & 13E depending on the leather or Alden Barrie in which I wear US13E. And how HD's widths compare to the American widths (D, E) on those wider lasts.
Hence, what will Alden TB/Barrie US13E equate to in HD's wider lasts - say Janosh, Rio, Buda and in what widths?
European / UK width indications are a bit confusing for me, to say the least.

 

[Pascal1980]

Here we go:

Shoe size - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The chart "Foot Width Conversion - approximation" shoes that a German F ("Slim/Medium" ) is a US B/C.

Still I think the "Luzern", "Zurich" and "London" (German G width / US E width) are likely to fit if you have a US D/E width.

Best regards

Pascal

 

[TweedyProf]

Any difference in feel on 2 versus 3 eyelet chukkas?

 

[Pascal1980]

2 eyelet is more dressy?

 

[TweedyProf]

2 eyelet is more dressy?

I was thinking the opposite, mostly because of desert boots having two.

 

[TheTukker]

2 eyelet is more dressy?

Agreed, but three eyelets allow for better fit/comfort.

 

[TweedyProf]

 

[Zapasman]

3 eyelet chukkas will better grab your foot.

 

[TweedyProf]

I went for the version I posted just above, but with dainite soles. Three eyelet, F last.

 

[Pascal1980]

Thanks Pascal for your insights and experience with HD. I have big, wide feet and a higher than avg instep and hence my interest is more in the wider lasts.
Basically which lasts could come the closest to Alden Trubalance in which I wear US13D & 13E depending on the leather or Alden Barrie in which I wear US13E. And how HD's widths compare to the American widths (D, E) on those wider lasts.
Hence, what will Alden TB/Barrie US13E equate to in HD's wider lasts - say Janosh, Rio, Buda and in what widths?
European / UK width indications are a bit confusing for me, to say the least.

Hello shahtirthak,

you are lucky to have wider feet, because Heinrich-Dinkelacker focuses the new autumn collection really stylish boots on their "Rio" last (German width G / US width E/EE) and "Buda" (German width G / US width E/EE).

For me the lasts are by far to wide. However, Heinrich-Dinkelacker is known for its shoes and lasts in particular for bigger men with wider feet.

Neuheiten

Heute, wie damals repräsentiert Heinrich Dinkelacker, Schuhe feinster Budapester Machart. Entdecken Sie traditionelle Qualität, welche nicht nur langlebig ist, sondern auch zeitlosen Stil spiegelt.

www.heinrich-dinkelacker.de

Best regards

Pascal

 

[BlueSteel]

Vass Vass Vass

3 x Budapester Derby