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Wow I didn't expect the Vass charm to extend to their website pricing. You got an even crazier deal.
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At the Store it looked like:
Italian Oxford * F
€ 560 € 280

This part of the invoice for one of the shoes I bought:
Purchased products/services:
Italian Oxford * F - 45 (XXXXX1x220,00 EUR
Discount0.00 EUR
Shipping cost40.00 EUR

We advise you that this message is an e-mail generated automatically by SimplePay system certifying the accomplishment of a successful payment.

Best regards,
The SimplePay Team
 

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Seen on Ascot website
 

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If that's the black Oxford that's half scotch grain, I bought the same one in 44.5. Price too good to pass up.

At the Store it looked like:
Italian Oxford * F
€ 560 € 280

This part of the invoice for one of the shoes I bought:
Purchased products/services:
Italian Oxford * F - 45 (XXXXX1x220,00 EUR
Discount0.00 EUR
Shipping cost40.00 EUR

We advise you that this message is an e-mail generated automatically by SimplePay system certifying the accomplishment of a successful payment.
 

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At the Store it looked like:
Italian Oxford * F
€ 560 € 280

This part of the invoice for one of the shoes I bought:
Purchased products/services:
Italian Oxford * F - 45 (XXXXX1x220,00 EUR
Discount0.00 EUR
Shipping cost40.00 EUR

We advise you that this message is an e-mail generated automatically by SimplePay system certifying the accomplishment of a successful payment.

Best regards,
The SimplePay Team

Fairly sure the 312 shell price was a mistake that has been corrected. I tried several times and always around 400. The other 50% off shoes are coming in correctly at 220.
 

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Fairly sure the 312 shell price was a mistake that has been corrected. I tried several times and always around 400. The other 50% off shoes are coming in correctly at 220.
Sorry to hear that. I guess I was lucky. Website behaves strange even to display the shoes.
 

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Hi there cojld you please help me with lasts and sizing?
are the P or P2 elongated?
i like sharp lines, keeping that in mind, would be the U and F the best choices or are there other possibilities?
I don’t know if I have wide feet, but in some shoes I have problems with mi pinky toes rubbing at the side of the shoes, with that in mind I think that K last is not an option. Would I need to size up in the U or F lasts?
im típica it a 42 but don’t have many comparables. I’m a solid 42 in my cheap Florsheim, my 8UK capital Loakes hurt my feet (and the not all that soft leather doesn’t help). I also have a pair of Peal & Co boots which hurts my right pinky toe, but I don’t know which last it might be made on.
I hope the information given may be useful. Thx!
 

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P and P2 are fairly classic round lasts. No issues with your toes rubbing.

F, U and K are more aggressive lasts, with the K likely being the most so. You will need to size up a little from P / P2, and if you have historic experience with toe rub I would go so far as to suggest U and K are not the right lasts for you.
 

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In my case I had to go half a size up on P last comparing to F last. P last is quite short and even half a size bigger the shoes are borderline when it comes to the length. That's also the recommendation I got from Vass themselves and from Ascot shoes.
 

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P and P2 are fairly classic round lasts. No issues with your toes rubbing.

F, U and K are more aggressive lasts, with the K likely being the most so. You will need to size up a little from P / P2, and if you have historic experience with toe rub I would go so far as to suggest U and K are not the right lasts for you.
Thx. And what about F?

In my case I had to go half a size up on P last comparing to F last. P last is quite short and even half a size bigger the shoes are borderline when it comes to the length. That's also the recommendation I got from Vass themselves and from Ascot shoes.
And did you get F in your topical size?
 

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Hi there cojld you please help me with lasts and sizing?
are the P or P2 elongated?
i like sharp lines, keeping that in mind, would be the U and F the best choices or are there other possibilities?
I don’t know if I have wide feet, but in some shoes I have problems with mi pinky toes rubbing at the side of the shoes, with that in mind I think that K last is not an option. Would I need to size up in the U or F lasts?
im típica it a 42 but don’t have many comparables. I’m a solid 42 in my cheap Florsheim, my 8UK capital Loakes hurt my feet (and the not all that soft leather doesn’t help). I also have a pair of Peal & Co boots which hurts my right pinky toe, but I don’t know which last it might be made on.
I hope the information given may be useful. Thx!

I admit I don't know what's considered elongated, but if it means what I think, then I would classify both P and P2 as half-elongated. P2 definitely, P at least subjectively, because I have to upsize (half-a-size) on it. It is almost a symmetrical last and if I went with my regular size (43.5), my big toes would get pushed inwards "too soon". The half size up still keeps the foot nicely in, so the shoe gives me plenty of room in front of the toes, and length. I am attaching a few pictures (including a pair of Loakes on the Capital, which you mention).

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From top to bottom: 3636-44, P-44, P2-43.5, Loake Capital 9UK, P2-43.5.

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Top to bottom: Loake Capital 9UK, P2-43.5, F-43.5, 3636-43.5.

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Same order as above.

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Closeup: 3636-44, P-44, P2-43.5

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And finally, three P2s: Theresianer, London, Budapest, all in 43.5.
They are all slightly different (yes, shoes within a last differ): Budapest is tighter across the vamp, Theresianer the roomiest. London fits me the best as it has a tighter heel and wider but lower instep.

Hope it helps.
 

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Hi Styleforum,

I quite like a shoe on sale (only available in size 43), but I noticed it’s in the R-last. On Ascotshoes the R-last is described as followed:

Wider Fitting Lasts
Below lasts are suitable for men who prefer a wider & comfortable fitting around the vamp & toes.
R
Quintessentially English last with a shorter round and flat captoe and comfortable high instep. This last is best suited to the Oxford type models.

I’m pretty sure I have normal feet width and also a normal instep.

Normally I wear 43/9UK/10US.

Should I stay away from this shoe in this last?

Thank you in advance.
 

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