The black Budapester on Halmos' new website is even nicer-looking than the Vass model that I just ordered. pretty equal to my eye. regarding michael's statement i dunno what the clicker has to do with the last shape, though. you never stop learning. the "norweger" is quite nice. imo, it beats the Dover by a far mile. also good to see that they use the same tree maker as operation paprika. noice.