Very informative..in light of all that's been discussed I'm surprised there's not more handwelted around. Like a Lobb handwelted line above prestige or something, lol. I know that's not really the tradition there and all that but still. Same goes for other superpremo makers. Kinda a top-end-of-the-market opp.. More on topic though: I've handled both St. C and Vass and - while perhaps several months in both respectively would yield more insight - I'll get into that style through Jok at $895 flat over St. C from Leatherfoot at $1500+HST any day of the week! (no offense to Arne or the Leatherfoot folks...I'd still happily get Carmina there or the odd sale on other makers).