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The Ultimate "HARDCORE" Shoe Porn Thread (Bespoke only)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Jul 3, 2010.

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  1. clee1982

    clee1982 Senior member

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    Nice, so you're out of the one shoe deal
     
  2. David Reeves

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    Welcome to the club! I have a pair of navy chelsea boots and some grey loafers coming for summer.
     
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    John Lobb St James. Fit is great as always. Still some finishing issues that I now think is part of the charm with these guys.
     
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  5. luk-cha

    luk-cha Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    this look miles more bespoke than those cleverleys just posted :slayer::slayer::slayer::foo:
     
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    Those Lobbs are awesome - restrained and elegant.
     
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    How do you mean?
     
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    Yes, I'm curious too.

    Why do you think the Lobbs look "more bespoke" than the Cleverleys?
     
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    I'm curious too. Being on the other side of the shoemaking bench, I've never heard of different grades of bespoke [​IMG]
     
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    I think he might be suggesting impishly that slightly scruffy finishing, a rather flat polish job and a more conservative shape, give a special air of artisan authenticity. Maybe JLSJ think a mirror shine and smooth edges are for fairies. :)

    They're both wonderful - the beautifully-finished GCs and the earnestly genuine JLs. But I have to say that blue croc wholecut will be the one I dream of tonight. Maybe I should visit Warsaw...any volunteers to interpret?
     
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  12. mafoofan

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    I don't like the straight-backed heel of the Lobbs. I think they'd look better canted.
     
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    thanks!

    Today I have taken only two pictures, please give me a few days I will post more ...

    cost = 2200 PLN (standard price for calf shoes at Januszkiewicz's workshop) + crocodile leathers (bought by myself. Not from shoemaker's standard offer, but he can source such)

    current FX rates:
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    luk-cha Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    too many straight lines in the last, no curve or contours, which for me makes them look quite shapeless and very generic RTW feel to them IMO - the lobbs have a more defined shape, also look at them and compare them to the japanese bespoke shoe thread, any of the shoes in there, and id guess most of those shoes too are made for folks with flat feet too.

    also i am not a fan of how they have done the side seam too, if they can do seamless then which is fine, because i know its not easy for make to do with this design, they should have hand skin stitched the inside seam, it would have given it a clean more elegant finish and would make the seam nearly invisable, but knowing clev's i am sure they fit very well

    1 question, how high are those heels?
     
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    I don't think Asians, or Japanese people specifically, are any more likely to have flat feet. Or are they?

    Interesting, your observations about the sculptedness. To my eye, the curves are definitely there--they just aren't stylized. In fact, when compared to my RTW shoes, the Cleverley pair is definitely more . . . odd. The proportions are not what would look good on a shelf.

    The heel is 1 3/8 inches.
     
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    his prices have gone up tremendously for calf
     
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    Really? Those prices quoted already seem extremely low for bespoke shoes!
     
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    it's poland and a few years ago (2008/2009) I think the prices were around $250
     
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    with regards to the flat feel, having live in Asia for 16 years, i'd say 90% of the locals i have met have flat feet, and the bespoke makers i have spoke over the years too, also say the same, but not to generalise too much!

    from the pictures you posted it is hard to tell how contoured they are, but looking at the clev shoes on this site id say your feet are similar http://cobblersweb.style.coocan.jp/bespoke/bespoke_shoemaker/cleverley.htm but if you compare the fosters shoes http://cobblersweb.style.coocan.jp/bespoke/bespoke-shoemaker2/foster&son.htm for the same guy they are alot more shapely/ sculpted and have a much more elegant line without being over stylized.

    the most important thing is they fit you well?? and you are happy with them?? as i know from your other thread you wasn't in the begining!!

    wow those heels are really high, i had some from G&G which were like that, after a while i sent them back to have normal hight heels put on, as over a course of the day i'd get cramps in my calves and sore knee's, as i was not use to having that extra lift, might be ok if you are at a desk all day but not if you are on your feet.
     
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    +1. I've heard this too.
     

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