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The Ultimate Fighter Season 4

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Since there seems to be some interest here I thought it'd be reasonable to start a thread on the show. This is one of three reality shows that I'm interested in since this nasty virus swept America (the others are Rockstar and Project Runway) - actually my favorite is the original Cops... that show has the best drama


Anyway, I think it's a nice break to see them change up the program by having experienced fighters in the mix. And I was happy to see Shoni and his "thugjitsu" get the first win. I didn't like the way the other guy was running his mouth. With this group we shouldn't see the wussing out, the completely one dimensional fighting that led to boring fights, or the pain of watching people who didn't have the "how" or "want" to fight in the ring.

Good stuff, can't wait to see what happens next.
 

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Problem with the UFC I think, which I thought the original Ultimate Fighter shows were sort of starting to remedy is that you keep seeing the same fighters over and over and there isn't enough infusion of new blood to the point where every time there is a title fight there has to be 15 rematches. Look at the heavyweight division - Arlovski beat Sylvia, then they have a rematch, then Sylvia beat Arlovski, then another rematch, then Sylvia beat Arlovski again. Now what? That whole heavyweight division is two guys, and it would be retarded to have them fight a fourth time (though, I've noticed Jeff Munson winning a lot of fights in the heavyweight division). I bet you within two or three UFCs you're going to see a rematch between Babalu and Chuck, and then another rematch.

The only division that is pretty stacked is the Welterweight division, but for everything else they need a million rematches. I thought the old Ultimate Fighter shows were infusing much needed new blood (e.g., look at Forrest Griffin, he almost beat Tito, so I would say that makes him a pretty legit light heavyweight). Now, with the new version, we're kind of seeing the same old guys again.
 

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Hmm, I see it as there wasn't much quality talent was coming out of the early TUF shows compared to how many fighters were on there. Look at Joe on Season 2, he dominated and now he can't win in the main UFC. For some reason the quality of fighters seems to be dwindling since season 1. I think the overall problem lies in all the different leagues like Pride for instance. These fighers are contracted to only fight in their league so the UFC can't get any other good known experienced fighters. Pride has many good heavyweights and I agree with you on UFC and heavyweights. However, UFC has many great light heavy, middle, and welterweight fighters which makes up for the momentary lack of heavyweights. I think if TUF rotated between new blood and old blood then that would be a success because there is an influx of new fighters and then new title challenges like TUF 4 will bring.
 

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Originally Posted by someoneNew
Hmm, I see it as there wasn't much quality talent was coming out of the early TUF shows compared to how many fighters were on there. Look at Joe on Season 2, he dominated and now he can't win in the main UFC. For some reason the quality of fighters seems to be dwindling since season 1. I think the overall problem lies in all the different leagues like Pride for instance. These fighers are contracted to only fight in their league so the UFC can't get any other good known experienced fighters. Pride has many good heavyweights and I agree with you on UFC and heavyweights. However, UFC has many great light heavy, middle, and welterweight fighters which makes up for the momentary lack of heavyweights. I think if TUF rotated between new blood and old blood then that would be a success because there is an influx of new fighters and then new title challenges like TUF 4 will bring.

Yeah, good point. I hope you're right. I like watching Pride, but UFC is so much more accessible here in the States.
 
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ive never seen this particular slice of the reality pie. worth the download?
 
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Originally Posted by someoneNew
Tomorrow night on Spike TV, you can check it out.
they dont have that in Vietnam man
 

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Originally Posted by [email protected]
they dont have that in Vietnam man


DOH!


Sorry man, I figured since you watched Rockstar you could catch it. You could probably find the website to catch clips if you're interested.
 

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Reality isn't like what is in reality TV. So what's the world on?
 

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Originally Posted by johnapril
Reality isn't like what is in reality TV. So what's the world on?

I don't watch it for the "reality" aspect of it. I watch it because I enjoy seeing two well trained fighters beat the crap out of each other.
 

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