The ubiquitous white shirt!

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  1. Jovan

    Jovan Banned for Good

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    I'm about to get a new shirt to replace the one I have which is frankly quite unflattering to wear without a coat. It's tentlike, and the double cuffs don't quite get along with my cufflinks or fold correctly. Also, the fabric wrinkles like a bitch.

    So... I think I'm going to draw inspiration from James Bond. White, medium spread collar, placket front, split yoke, and turnback cuffs (I don't really want to have to buy a lot of cufflinks). The fabric won't be Sea Island, but a high grade wrinkle-resistant broadcloth. Shirt will be by Baron Boutique. Anyone think this is a particularly bad idea? I'm not necessarily trying to be like Bond, but I do really like the style of his shirts back in the early films. The turnback cuffs look especially tasteful even today. As far as colour, there's a brighter white and a softer one. Which would you go with?
     
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    Personally, I think the turnback cuffs look gimmicky. But that is neither here nor there. However, I would caution you that I don't think there really is any such think as "wrinkle resistant broadcloth" unless there are some synthetic fibers blended in, and I'm not sure you really want that ...
     
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    Sure doesn't feel synthetic. I will ask them, however. I've bought a wrinkle resistant/non-iron shirt before that is 100% cotton.
     
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    Sure doesn't feel synthetic. I will ask them, however. I've bought a wrinkle resistant/non-iron shirt before that is 100% cotton.
    Is it treated with something?
     
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    Sure doesn't feel synthetic. I will ask them, however. I've bought a wrinkle resistant/non-iron shirt before that is 100% cotton.

    Had to be chemically treated.

    EDIT: Manton beat me to it.
     
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    I don't see how that's necessarily bad though. It's still 100% cotton and feels great.

    Should I get a canvassed collar? I think I've grown a bit attracted to them.
     
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    Sure doesn't feel synthetic. I will ask them, however. I've bought a wrinkle resistant/non-iron shirt before that is 100% cotton.

    Don't you find you still need to iron it?
     
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    No... that would kind of defeat the purpose, and I've never been able to get any of my normal shirts completely, perfectly crisp anyways. (I don't use starch)
     
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    Chemical coatings on shirts creep me out. I still won't buy Brooks' non-irons.
     
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    never iron your non-irons, it starts a chemical reaction triggering a nuclear explosion

    what do you think happened in chernobyl?
     
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    never iron your non-irons, it starts a chemical reaction triggering a nuclear explosion what do you think happened in chernobyl?
    [​IMG] Seriously, I'd just get a non-iron shirt. I think the ones that are teflon-coated, or whatever they are, just don't feel right. And if you do iron them, I think the coating could react very badly to the heat.
     
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    Chemical coatings on shirts creep me out. I still won't buy Brooks' non-irons.

    I bought a few Brooks non-irons a while ago. I regret that purchase. I wore them a few times and now, after wearing nice shirts for a while, I realize how crappy the feel and material of those shirts really is. They are 100% cotton, but they're just not the same as my CEGO, Hemrajani, or Chan shirts. Even my Tyrwhitt shirts feel better than the Brooks non-irons.
     
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    Mmmkay, I see the hate for non-iron is rampant. I can assure you the stuff I got feels just fine though, and I'll even get them to mail you a swatch if you don't wanna believe me. Now, can we get back on topic? [​IMG]
     
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    There are two ways to make a non iron shirt.
    The first which is produced by a huge manufaturer call TAL. they produce one of every eight shirts sold in the USA.

    Theiratented process takes a finsihed shirt, Tapes the seams and then dips the shirt in the wrinkle free solution. It sounds rather toxic to me.

    Other shirt companies buy a pre treated fabric. There is a great deal of ammonia in the process.

    These are produced in 100% cotton. The finest yarns are not used due to the fact that the solutions leaves the fabric feeling sort of like plastic.

    Jovan, what you mean by a canvassed collar is the collar lining is not fused, or glued. Fused or un fused collars start with the same woven interling. The Fusables just have a layer of glue on one side which is melted and bonded to the fabric by heat and pressure.

    If you are going for wrinkle free then I would suggest you stay with a fused collar.


    Carl


    www.cego.com
     
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    Everyman Should Have A White Ocbd. If You Don't Have One I Highly Recommend This For Your Next Shirt.
     

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