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Originally Posted by romafan
This I understand. Mine is a "the good old days, the good old days - everyone's talikng about the good old days" comment. You never saw Rod Laver walk out on the court carrying one of those stupid bags that make you look like a hockey player. Power hitter on humid day? Fine, bring half a dozen and go nuts....

Rod Laver was way less hard on his equipment than those guys are. They hit a lot more balls, the matches are quite a bit longer, and they hit much, much harder.
 

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Originally Posted by SField
Rod Laver was way less hard on his equipment than those guys are. They hit a lot more balls, the matches are quite a bit longer, and they hit much, much harder.

If you say so. How long did the average match last 'back in the day'? How long today? How hard was the Rocket serving/hittiing as opposed to guys today? How many balls did the dinosaurs hit as opposed to Federer, et al.?

Maybe they should put some of those racks (like the ones that hold xtra hockey sticks) courtside and they could line up all there rackets according to stringing tension instead of having to fumble through those giant bags and 'pinging' rackets against each other to see which is more tightly strung....
 

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Borg was a "back in the day" player, and he was known for having his rackets strung really tight around 80 lbs when it should have been strung around 55, so I'd imagine he'd need a lot of rackets courtside. And wouldnt the dinosaurs have hit more balls, since today's game is so power based with big serves and groundstrokes that long rallies arent as common
 

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i play tennis near my local high school, the courts are public and in great condition

I cant believe it costs 150 for an hour!
 

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Originally Posted by Get Smart
Borg was a "back in the day" player, and he was known for having his rackets strung really tight around 80 lbs when it should have been strung around 55, so I'd imagine he'd need a lot of rackets courtside. And wouldnt the dinosaurs have hit more balls, since today's game is so power based with big serves and groundstrokes that long rallies arent as common

5 setters are far more common in majors now than ever, I've heard that statistic a lot.

Also keep in mind that qualies last much longer and the average over 50 ranked player has to play a hell of a lot of matches to qualify for a masters and quite a few for a major.

Tennis didn't have anywhere near the kind of depth that there is now, with unknowns giving the biggest players a run for their money, especially in the early rounds. That almost never happened 'back in the day', since the talent was quite concentrated at the top. You almost never saw a good match until the semis or the finals. Now, you can see it in prelims of qualifying, a week before the tournament really starts.

Rallies are definitely shorter, that is for sure, but players today play more. There must be like 5 times as many tournaments as there were 'back in the day', not to mention that there is much greater pressure to take very few breaks and to have to play them all. A lot of the time you have just a day break before you start another, especially if you aren't inside 40 or so. Also keep in mind that they're training, including hitting, is infinitely more intense.
 

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^^ totally agree, today's game is much more physically demanding on the players and their equipment. just theorizing if rallies were longer "back in the day" during an average match

and yes, the depth of today's game is great, esp on the women's side. I remember being bored to tears during "the good ol days" watching moonball rallies during women's matches
 

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The good old days, the good old days - everyone's talikng about the good old days....
I remember Ilie Nastase changing his shorts courtside @ Orange Lawn (Forest Hills warmup back when the Open was on grass), and being in total awe of Pancho Gonzalez. We used to grab all the grass-stained balls the guys would leave on the court after their warmups. My family planned some vacations around some small tournaments and often ended up in the same motel as the players. Laver & Roy Emerson were staying next to us once down in NC - their rental car waslittered w/ empty Bud cans
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Maybe the sport has progressed, but it seems like something has been lost....

Originally Posted by SField
5 setters are far more common in majors now than ever, I've heard that statistic a lot.

Also keep in mind that qualies last much longer and the average over 50 ranked player has to play a hell of a lot of matches to qualify for a masters and quite a few for a major.

Tennis didn't have anywhere near the kind of depth that there is now, with unknowns giving the biggest players a run for their money, especially in the early rounds. That almost never happened 'back in the day', since the talent was quite concentrated at the top. You almost never saw a good match until the semis or the finals. Now, you can see it in prelims of qualifying, a week before the tournament really starts.

Rallies are definitely shorter, that is for sure, but players today play more. There must be like 5 times as many tournaments as there were 'back in the day', not to mention that there is much greater pressure to take very few breaks and to have to play them all. A lot of the time you have just a day break before you start another, especially if you aren't inside 40 or so. Also keep in mind that they're training, including hitting, is infinitely more intense.
 

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Originally Posted by Get Smart
^^ totally agree, today's game is much more physically demanding on the players and their equipment. just theorizing if rallies were longer "back in the day" during an average match

and yes, the depth of today's game is great, esp on the women's side. I remember being bored to tears during "the good ol days" watching moonball rallies during women's matches


The women have a long way to go yet. There's still quite a few tournaments where the qualies and early main draw matches are unwatchable. Still a lot of pushers and people who can't even ******* hold serve. However, I agree that it is so much better now than even 5 years ago, it's almost a joke.
 

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Originally Posted by romafan
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The good old days, the good old days - everyone's talikng about the good old days....
I remember Ilie Nastase changing his shorts courtside @ Orange Lawn (Forest Hills warmup back when the Open was on grass), and being in total awe of Pancho Gonzalez. We used to grab all the grass-stained balls the guys would leave on the court after their warmups. My family planned some vacations around some small tournaments and often ended up in the same motel as the players. Laver & Roy Emerson were staying next to us once down in NC - their rental car waslittered w/ empty Bud cans
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Maybe the sport has progressed, but it seems like something has been lost....


Maybe it was, but it isnt the game that's changed in that case, it's also you. I take it you'd never sleep in a motel room and that you certainly don't drink bud. They've made many of the same changes as you.

Also keep in mind that if you go early in the week before the big main draw matches, you can go sit about 3 feet away from an amazing match. You can sit next to the player's coach and his girlfriend/wife/family, and hear everything they say, and congratulate the guys personally with a handshake. This is something most people don't know. They all just flock like lemmings to the big matches in the grand stand and the stadium. A lot of the best stuff is early on, when no one else is around.
 

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Originally Posted by SField
Maybe it was, but it isnt the game that's changed in that case, it's also you. I take it you'd never sleep in a motel room and that you certainly don't drink bud. They've made many of the same changes as you.

Also keep in mind that if you go early in the week before the big main draw matches, you can go sit about 3 feet away from an amazing match. You can sit next to the player's coach and his girlfriend/wife/family, and hear everything they say, and congratulate the guys personally with a handshake. This is something most people don't know. They all just flock like lemmings to the big matches in the grand stand and the stadium. A lot of the best stuff is early on, when no one else is around.


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Have you ever fished in ID/MT/CO/WY/CA/NM? Nothing but motels. I love(d) cold Bud in a can (but can sadly no longer drink it
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Yes, agree re early in the week/no one else around comment. Up close and personal is the way to watch tennis....
 

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Originally Posted by romafan
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Have you ever fished in ID/MT/CO/WY/CA/NM? Nothing but motels. I love(d) cold Bud in a can (but can sadly no longer drink it
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Yes, agree re early in the week/no one else around comment. Up close and personal is the way to watch tennis....


I only go spear fishing.
 

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Originally Posted by romafan
but you don't sleep in the water, right?
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Tucker Max sleeps on water, I heard.
 

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started playing tennis at 7ish, played everyday from 9-14 years old, quit playing missouri valley and usta tourneys at 15 cause of injuries and because i hated it, picked tennis back up at 16 and started loving it but by then everyone in my age group had gotten a lot better than me, played on my hs team and walked on to my university's team but quit because i didn't have enough time and couldn't put my heart into it.

sorry for block of text.

And in my opinion women's tennis is not that fun to watch because most players just try to hit the ball as hard as they can. A player comes along like henin and dominates women's tennis because she can actually work the ball. Navratilova could work the ball like nobody's business and she's probably the greatest of all time
 

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