The striped shirt as bar-going uniform

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  1. mack11211

    mack11211 Senior member

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    Remember when the boldly striped shirt was a novelty among men going out? Those were the days. Now, "[w]hen most guys in New York want to get lucky, they wear the "Stripey." You know Stripey. It's the goofy-looking shirt that has become as basic as a pair of socks." More here
     
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    Hmmmmm, just got my first stripey; of course, we're three years behind the times here.

    BTW: that's a very funny bit of writing by that reporter.
     
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    I'm not surprised. All stores are pushing the striped shirt this spring/summer. It seems to be all stores like Banana Republic sell (once BR embraces a trend, you know its over).

    I still like the look in moderation, but some of the patterns/styles are so over the top.

    BTW the article is from the DailyNews, not the Post...but its something I'd expect from the Post....
     
  4. mack11211

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    Oops. I read them both online, so it's easy to blur them.
     
  5. Get Smart

    Get Smart Don't Crink

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    this is one trend i am proud to say i never jumped on.

    i like striped shirts with a suit and tie, but detest the look that article is disparaging...untucked, unbuttoned low. the new frat boy uniform after he's graduated.
     
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    Funny article - the interesting thing is that, despite the ridicule by the writer, the upshot of it is that women still like the look, and that's probably the most important thing for most guys.

    I'm not going to dump all my striped shirts yet, because if they last in NYC for another 12 months, they'll be good here in Arizona for another 2-years minimum.

    However, the "Stripey" is certainly going to be one of those items of apparel that we will look back at as representative of a certain era. Much like a white disco suit symbolizes the 70's and parachute pants might symbolize the early 80's.

    I'll have to get some photos taken of me in my stripey and jeans so that someday my son can make fun of his dad.

    Bradford
     
  7. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I like Paul Smith, Etro, and Richard James shirts, but never jumped on the band wagon either.  I think that the look was okay done right, which it never really was.  The best brands (Paul Smith and Etro) were much too baggy, and the slimmer cuts (which worked) were super Eurotrashy.  Plus, I really like solids a lot more. Actually, come to think of it, I never bought a stripey shirt of the type mentioned at all except for a BR slim fit stretch one which I customised by sewing on the silhouette of a patch pocket, frayed the collar and cuffs, and made all the buttons snaps instead.  Very cool.  Wonder why it didn't make the move to Boston.
     
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    Just goes to show that there are rubes and hicks in New York, just like anywhere else.
     
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    Gingham check is gonna be next, but they are not as flattering on the average male than stripes so it probably won't last long. I am amazed by Stripey staying power as it had lasted for over 3 years. One tailor mentioned in the forum used to have great difficulties sourcing multi colour multi stripes fabrics when the trend first hit about 3 years ago, now I believe he has over 50 such frabics available on his site. Props to him for not giving up on pattern matching on those shirts. If you want to get stripey now, forget this kind of pattern [​IMG] get this instead [​IMG]
     
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    A loud, almost neon, gold and purple Stripey walks by. "See that?" she asks. "Now that's a cool shirt. He's not a great-looking guy, but I'd talk to him because of the shirt."
    Just goes to show that there are rubes and hicks in New York, just like anywhere else.
    Yep. Â More of them are bridge and tunnel than Manhattanites though, and the ones who aren't usually work in the financial district (stock jocks in general are nothing if not conformist) and go to cheesy "Trump classy" (my new favorite term) midtown clubs. Â Of course, there is a fair bit of groupthink (to use Brian's word) in the East Village as well. Â I applaud the hipster who enjoys listening to Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen in a non-ironic way. Â Or the stock jock who wears Prada (oh, how *gay* of him) to work. Â Those guys are the real individualists. As for shirts, I'll stick with my tees and military and western style shirts as I have for years now, thanks. LA Guy, who really actually enjoys listening to Journey, and sings along.
     
  11. RJman

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    Yes, it's saddening to me that the striped shirt has become co-opted by the American Jackass and that my more idiotic friends who made fun of me two years ago are now wearing migraine-inducing patterns.

    You're all right -- the trend now is more understated stripes, heading back to mutedness, and checks will have a brief flash.

    I foresee a sudden burnout and a return to monochromes, and a death to the fashion for the dandy-tailored look which might this time take the suit as an institution with it. Sad, to me.
     
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    I also think part of the problem is that, at a lot of major retailers, the choices are limited by the trends.  As the striped shirt is hot right now (or at least it has been over the past year or two), many retailers load up on striped shirts at the expense of other merchandise.  I was in Banana Republic just after New Year's, and overheard the a conversation between two guys looking at casual shirts that went something like:

    First Guy: What do you think of this shirt?

    Second Guy: It looks okay, I guess.

    FG: Yeah - I'm not really sure I want to buy a striped shirt, but what other chioice do I have in this day and age?

    In looking at the casual shirts in BR that day, those loud, striped, "American Jackass" shirts took up by far the most shelf space.  Thus, if you want to buy a new shirt, what other choice do you have?  I doubt this is true of all retailers, but it is most likely true of those which most of us can find at a mall in Anywhere, USA.

    Along the same lines, an article came out in my local paper about a year ago making fun of all of the Hawaiian print shirts which were popular recently (and singling out Tommy Bahama as a particularly bad "offender").  It used to be that TB took up a small amount of space (probably 10% or less in the men's casual wear department) in the Norsdstrom in my local mall.  Now, it probably takes up anywhere from 20% to 30% in the casual wear department.  Again, this limits the choice for most men who are just looking to buy a casual shirt (and it also reinforces the idea that they should buy TB, since it must be in style because Nordstrom is selling so much of it - then Nordstrom sells more and, as a result, devotes even more space to it).

    I guess the point of the above ramblings (if there is one) is that it's hard for the average person to wear clothing which goes against the trend, because it takes a lot more effort to find it.
     
  13. Bergdorf Goodwill

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    There is nothing inherently wrong with a striped shirt, however its pairing with any given individual varies from the sublime to the atrocious.

    There are all too many "dudes" who just don't know how to wear clothes at all who have resorted to these shirts for club night or whatever the hell. It is gross.

    And yet I love stripes, because I love lines and color and a stripe is just that.
     
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    Woah, I wear striped dress shirts all the time, but I never realized they were in still now. I gotta get out more.

    Though, I usually wear them tucked in...
     
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    Just out of curiosity, would you all find this shirt overtly "jackass"? (Hmm, can't find a pic. It's black, with grey stripes about 1/8 of an inch wide)

    I'll continue to wear it, as it was a gift and everyone around here thinks it looks good and is ignorant of men's fashion beyond Ralph Lauren products. I just want to know if it would be a greivous mistake to take it to NY. (Yes, I know it's BR, I'm a penniless student.)
     

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