# The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

#### Concordia

##### Distinguished Member
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It seems the button point is level with the pockets, which would meet the lower (unbuttoned) buttons on a SB or 6x2.

#### luca_defumo

##### Member
This is the smoking my friend Mario Iannetta made for me for the gala night that concluded Milano Su Misura 2021, the event organized at the beautiful Hotel Principe di Savoia by Arbiter Magazine in collaboration with Loro Piana and BMW. Since I have a personal dislike for patent leather, due to the fact that during my apprentice as shoemaker patent was the material that used to crack easier during the work, I matched it with a seamless whole cut Oxford in mirror shined black boxcalf, made by me, already posted here some weeks ago.

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#### ld111134

##### Distinguished Member
Interesting move on the white waistcoat. You don't see that too often, but it makes a lot of sense.
When one marrys a woman who’s an exceptionally fine dresser, one needs to pull out all of the stops.

#### Roycru

##### Distinguished Member
Friday night at the Art Deco Society Of Los Angeles annual (except for last year) Christmas "Cocktails In Historic Places" event at the Gallery Bar in the Biltmore Hotel. I am wearing a suit and he is wearing white tie. Since the average of the two is black tie, this is the right group to post this picture in.

Is my math correct? If not, what is the average of a suit and white tie?

#### Andy57

##### Distinguished Member
Friday night at the Art Deco Society Of Los Angeles annual (except for last year) Christmas "Cocktails In Historic Places" event at the Gallery Bar in the Biltmore Hotel. I am wearing a suit and he is wearing white tie. Since the average of the two is black tie, this is the right group to post this picture in.

Is my math correct? If not, what is the average of a suit and white tie?

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I think your math is sound.

#### cr2596

##### Senior Member
Friday night at the Art Deco Society Of Los Angeles annual (except for last year) Christmas "Cocktails In Historic Places" event at the Gallery Bar in the Biltmore Hotel. I am wearing a suit and he is wearing white tie. Since the average of the two is black tie, this is the right group to post this picture in.

Is my math correct? If not, what is the average of a suit and white tie?

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Which cocktail(s) did you have? Or, did you stick to bubbly?

#### ld111134

##### Distinguished Member
My wedding on Saturday.

#### The Chai

##### Distinguished Member
more experimental slippers for black tie

#### MattyS

##### Well-Known Member
Our first black tie event since the beginning of the pandemic. (Apologies for the poor photo quality; it was taken with my phone is mediocre light.

#### upr_crust

##### Distinguished Member
Living in a large city, such as New York, one lives with the assumption that, other than places where one is known, one is rather anonymous - just another face in the crowd. Occasionally, for me at least, this seems not to be entirely true.

Last night, my husband and I attended a party at the Frick Madison, a gathering of the great and the good in the holiday season, as these things are. We knew very few of the other attendees, other than museum staff, and I assumed that we were not of much interest to any in the gathering.

An elderly gentleman, sitting with his wife to one side of the room, motioned for us to come over. He proceeded to compliment us on our attire, noting that we are always elegantly dressed, and citing, as an example, attire we wore some five years ago to the Frick Garden Party of 2016 (a photo of our attire that day is included below).

I guess that I (or we) are not as visually anonymous as I had previously thought.

But today is another day.

The weather is again grey and dull, but dry, at least, and seasonably cold, as one would expect in NYC in December. Showing the true depth of sartorial frustration brought on by COVID, I am currently garbed in evening attire, for the sole purpose of attending a party at New & Lingwood this evening. Now, the jacket came from N & L, and it was the suggestion of the store manager that the dress code was "black tie optional", combined with a lack of other excuses to wear the jacket that have caused me to overdress in such a manner. Well, I guess it's "tis the season" . . .

Jacket & braces - New & Lingwood
Shirt & pocket square - Brooks Brothers
Tie - Seigo, NYC
Cummerbund - vintage, no name
Stud set - Deakin & Francis, London
Trousers - Ede & Ravenscroft
Shoes - Magnanni, via Saks Fifth Avenue
Overcoat - Turnbull & Asser
Scarf - Fortnum & Mason
Hat - Lock, London

#### Thin White Duke

##### Distinguished Member
Fuck me crusty - I remember that picture of you two. Has that been five years? Christ on a bike the time is flying!

#### Krish the Fish

##### Distinguished Member
@upr_crust you and your husband are always impeccably dressed (at least with what you post to this thread) that I cannot imagine you two going unnoticed! Glad your dual formal excellence went noticed! Cheers!

#### shrink1061

##### Senior Member
Starting to up my black tie game with some better accessories. Newest to my arsenal are the ever faithful Albert Thurston silk moire braces as seen in Casino Royale

The bow tie is my Ede & Ravenscroft which has been a staple in my black tie wardrobe for some years now!

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