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It's kind of complex in the UK... I don't disagree outright with Concordia. Black tie is comparatively common, here, and is mostly worn with turn-down collar and either a cummerbund or no waist covering. After a protracted run of popularity in the 1980s and early 1990s, wing collars (usually quite poor ones) came to be viewed as a bit "common" and some do look down on them. I've found that if you have a clearly vintage/retro look and do it well it has a different effect.The Brits will say no. They wear black tie enough that dressing it up with white tie gear is seen as a little gauche. Even having a shirt made with two studs instead of three is frowned upon, and some shirtmakers will simply refuse if they think you're going to wear it with black tie.
Over here, you have people who (a) remember that black tie was originally a way of dressing down from normal white tie, and borrowed bits and pieces-- or (b) get suckered into really bad RTW shirts with short-short-short wing collars.
We need a barf emoji...
A little late to respond, but I think that yellow dress was perfect for the Met Gala. Not over-the-top, but festive and gorgeous on her.This is a little off the beaten path, but is that dress really suitable for evening? I have no idea how women's dresses are ranked, except for very generally, but that colour strikes me as very odd.
Again, a little late, so I apologize.Is a white pique wing collar shirt with studs (white tie shirt) worn with backless black waist coat with matching bow tie appropriate for “semi-formal” evening wear (dinner jacket)?
Not the most Australian thing, perhaps. But code for fully-professional orchestras tends to be white tie. Boulez caused a bit of a stir back in the 70s when he switched the NY Philharmonic to black tie-- which Mehta reversed six years later.Surprisingly its white tie for the perth orchestra
I play in an amateur orchestra, and most of the men wear black tie, even though it's not strictly required or enforced. We get a few dark suits with black sneakers, but I don't think any of them are in the front row. For matinees, sometimes I wear a black suit with a black necktie instead of a tux. I can't recall ever wearing black tie when not performing, usually with an orchestra, occasionally a concert band, and once only, a one-time rock/pop performance of all James Bond movie music.
Black tie is still alive and well (but far from universal) in orchestral and concert band music, from the local community orchestras up to the major symphony orchestras and opera companies.
Most US pro orchestras at the regional level and above wear white tie for classical subscription performances.My own orchestral experience-- in Boston, a semi-pro orchestra I spent many years in is black tie. A bit of a pain, as they had three concerts on a weekend, so there needed to be some planning for shirts. This year, they're doing only one/program in a larger hall. I have left that, and sometimes (normality permitting) play in a summer orchestra. That is less formal. Black trousers and shoes, and probably a black or white shirt, but I cannot remember exactly right now.
In the UK, all-black is getting to be much more standard. It makes a ton of sense for pit orchestras, and it may also be a nod to the relative poverty of freelance musicians and students. Not having to send a white shirt out every night to be starched must be a relief, not to mention avoiding the costs and hassles of finding a black jacket that is well-cut enough to tolerate movement on stage.
As for me, I have a duo recital in October, for a black-tie audience. Unless instructed otherwise, I shall wear black tie. The only other performer is a young woman, who will doubtless have her own solution to the black and white problem.
And I am experimenting by acquiring a shawl-lapel DJ (grosgrain), made from 11oz Escorial but with unconstructed shoulders. A nod to the 50s Ivy League. Not sure if it will be ready by show time, or if I will have a preference for another.