The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

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  1. recondite

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    Well-said. This seems to explain why I find the tie in the bottom picture too small. Thank you for this post.
     


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    Is it just me or is Cooper's bow less wide than his eyes? The left (his right) seems to be about aligned with his right eye, on the other side it doesn't reach the outside of his eye (at least the front bow)
     


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    The more I look at it the more I think that the issue with Cooper's bow isn't the width, rather the shape. A bow of that shape, regardless of size, looks like it would be more at home with a smoking jacket or at the very least a shawl lapel, while Cooper's peak jacket is better suited to the more angular bows we usually see. Put a bow with sharp, triangular sides on him, even at that width, and the whole look changes, IMO.

    I also think he may need to adjust the length in back a bit. Notice that the back parts seem to be narrower than the front, so he either needs to pull the whole thing tighter or else give himself a little more length to work with.
     
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    Well, then I shall dance a waltz in your honour at the Ball der Offiziere in Vienna's Hofburg this coming Friday, 18 January. I am leaving in a few hours to depart for Vienna via Istanbul.

    Btw, my husband's formal gloves are made of kid leather and lined with silk, as are mine. Although I have both lined and unlined opera gloves. A lady's dress should never be completely backless, and even with a strapless dress, which I wear frequently, your right hand will be well below her shoulder blade, and not come into direct contact with her skin, but rather with the fabric of her gown.
     


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    Here's a similar look with a bow tie that works, is barely wider than the outside of the eyes, and isn't clownish like the ties Tom Ford seems to prefer.

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    Accidental double post, while waiting at the airport for delayed aeroplane to Vienna.
     
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    Sorry to deviate from the thread topic, but the beer glasses (not your spectacles) are all wrong. My mum is from Bavaria, the origin of Hefe- and Kristallweißbier, which also comes in "hell" versus "dunkel", and it is supposed to be served in tall glasses: [​IMG]
     


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    OK proportions on the bow tie, but now I have to say that the lapels are a bit big for his torso.


    Where is Cary Grant when you need him?
     


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    CG loved him some large lapels, too....

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    Are those penny loafers in the first shot?
     


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