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The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

classicalthunde

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I have experienced your conundrum first-hand, attending a black-tie optional wedding (a one-hour Mass) with a three hour time gap between the end of the ceremony, and the beginning of cocktail hour.

For the record, my husband and I opted for option #2, as the wedding and reception were both in Manhattan (wedding on the Upper East Side, reception at Chelsea Piers), and our apartment was logistically in between (Murray Hill). I can also tell you that we were the only guests who opted to change between ceremony and reception - the only other gentlemen in black tie were the wedding party, and the fathers of the bride and groom.

For this wedding, I also performed my duties as the Bow Tie Whisperer, tieing the groom's bow tie, and several of his groomsmen, millenials having little to no idea, in general, how to tie a bow tie. I was summoned to the wedding party's hotel several hours before the wedding to perform this task, a warm and humid day, and there are pictures of me, sweating in a polo shirt and shorts, tieing bow ties. Happily, the photos are only in the possession of the married couple.
haha, i will need to start practicing my bow tie skills about a week out, just to be safe!
 

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My next DJ project...I think I'll get a dark navy fresco mohair...unlined 4x1 shawl....self faced because I want to wear it with a variety of my navy/midnight bow ties with a self stripe on the trousers... I thought it would be something different since I already have a collection of black tie..thoughts?
How many events through the year do you attend in your Dinner Jacket? Navy is great, and a perfect alternative to black. You mentioned you have several black ties, but not if you have a similar variety in regards to your dinner suit.
The DJ look is very sharp, and I just wondered if you had a classic single/ double breasted, peak lapel option that serves most of the events you might attend, and reserve the navy option for those particular esteemed events.
 

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How many events through the year do you attend in your Dinner Jacket? Navy is great, and a perfect alternative to black. You mentioned you have several black ties, but not if you have a similar variety in regards to your dinner suit.
The DJ look is very sharp, and I just wondered if you had a classic single/ double breasted, peak lapel option that serves most of the events you might attend, and reserve the navy option for those particular esteemed events.
I have
1) classic three piece midnight barathea with silk grosgrain waistcoat
2) dark navy mohair sb shawl with satin facing
3) cream shawl db 4x1
4) dark navy mohair db 6x2 black grosgrain facings

they all have black facings so they only take black bow ties with the exception of the cream shawl...and I vastly prefer navy midnight bow ties

I’ve a cream silk jacket in the w...haven’t decided if db or sb that I think I could double as a dj or sc...

so I’m trying to decide whether a 4x1 navy mohair shawl self faced would be good to match the navy bow ties with different textures (eg satin/grosgrain/grenadine/shantung) rather than having a fixed silk facing to match a specific bow tie and a specific weave
 

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I have
1) classic three piece midnight barathea with silk grosgrain waistcoat
2) dark navy mohair sb shawl with satin facing
3) cream shawl db 4x1
4) dark navy mohair db 6x2 black grosgrain facings

they all have black facings so they only take black bow ties with the exception of the cream shawl...and I vastly prefer navy midnight bow ties

I’ve a cream silk jacket in the w...haven’t decided if db or sb that I think I could double as a dj or sc...

so I’m trying to decide whether a 4x1 navy mohair shawl self faced would be good to match the navy bow ties with different textures (eg satin/grosgrain/grenadine/shantung) rather than having a fixed silk facing to match a specific bow tie and a specific weave
I think it's great that you're playing around with texture, whilst keeping to a clean colour palette. Mohair is easy to work with too. Your decision lies in whether you are picking up the satin lapel, introducing a new texture, ie, knitted option, velvet, or keeping the weave flat and play with pattern and introduce a subtle colour to compliment the look.
Will you be using a self tie bow tie or ready to wear?
 

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I think it's great that you're playing around with texture, whilst keeping to a clean colour palette. Mohair is easy to work with too. Your decision lies in whether you are picking up the satin lapel, introducing a new texture, ie, knitted option, velvet, or keeping the weave flat and play with pattern and introduce a subtle colour to compliment the look.
Will you be using a self tie bow tie or ready to wear?
Self faced with the same fabric as the suit which is a navy mohair fresco. All my bow ties are self tie from sam
Hober
 

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Self faced with the same fabric as the suit which is a navy mohair fresco. All my bow ties are self tie from sam
Hober
And the event in question? Strict formal dress code?
 

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Nah just whenever I feel like it. I live in Australia. No one wears proper black tie here and I already have a few black tie rigs. Thought I’d have the option to change it up abit
That you'll do well. I would look for a few prestigious events in your locality, have an excuse to debut that outfit and give it the audience it deserves!
Best of luck!
 

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so I’m trying to decide whether a 4x1 navy mohair shawl self faced would be good to match the navy bow ties with different textures (eg satin/grosgrain/grenadine/shantung) rather than having a fixed silk facing to match a specific bow tie and a specific weave
my $0.02 is to go full iconoclast or conventional conservative. Anything in between looks like you don’t know what you are doing.
 

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Saw a fantastic triple-bill at the SF ballet last night.

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My favorite was “The Infinite Ocean,” a contemporary piece reflecting the passing of life. Quite moving. Then there was “Etudes,” which gives an overview of the daily ritual of ballet dancers, starting with prosaic barre exercises and culminating with so many leaps and twirls you’re left with your head spinning.

Tux: Eidos
Shirt: 100 Hands
Tie: Robert Talbot
Studs & links: Samuel Gassman via NMWA
Slippers: Belgian Shoes NYC
 
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