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The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mafoofan, Nov 22, 2011.

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  1. Van Veen

    Van Veen Senior member

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    You can't expect 100% black tie guy textbook. Personally, on my own judge's sheet, I will forgive 1 idiosyncrasy (e.g. Chris Rock's lapels) if fit is on point.
     
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    Joe Biden's crowning achievement over the course of his time as vice-president is that black tie rig...

    Well played Mr. Vice-president...
     
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    Really?! Google just reveals notch lapels and wing collars. Screams rental (although obviously not).
     
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    Did you google "Joe Biden Oscars"?
    [​IMG]
     
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    I don't think it looks great, No shape, low armholes - looks very brooksbrothers.
     
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    This is becoming a theme of mine, but in bigger pictures his shirt collar clearly does not fit, which seems to be a peculiarly American problem (no offence to this forum). And you really need studs or a hidden placket, not visible buttons, even if MoP.
     
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    Just to be clear, I was trying to help with identify the right picture of the event as @tbrock mentioned notch lapel, wing collar etc... whilst the VP was wearing peak lapel and turn down.

    And whilst you can be over critical about fit and cut, the jacket has the right details for example (lapels, pockets)
     
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    Two of my closest friends just gave me a reason to get a tux for weddings a couple of months apart. Black, peak lapel, single button. I never thought I'd venture outside of notch lapel suits, but at my advanced age of 33, I figured I should man up for the occasion(s).
     
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    Awesome. You'll find excuses to wear it to other events too. I got mine 3 years ago and have worn it about 15 times. Only one was mandatory black tie, a couple were black tie preferred, and the rest were black tie optional where I could have easily worn a suit if I didn't have the tuxedo.
     
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    Yeah, I figured as much. It's about 1.5k. I think I'm fine on the shoes (some C&Js, nothing fancy; I wanted Lobb monk straps, but hard to justify), but it'll take about 2k overall to round it out - planning to support Kent Wang on the cummerbund and tie.

    The woman I'm seeing makes dolling up look effortless, so this might be an excuse for a nice date in between the weddings.
     
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    Damn that's a lot of scratch.
     
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    That was the ballpark for mine as well, including shoes, alterations, and sales taxes. I posted a breakdown in one of the other ongoing black tie/wedding tux threads (lost track of which one now).
     
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    I think what I budgeted is pretty reasonable for something I'll likely have for a lifetime and maybe wear once or twice a year. I'm fine on the cufflinks, the balance of the budget will be the tie, cummerbund, and shirt.

    Also, I was joking about the monk straps. I do want G&G, EG or Lobb ones at some point, but obviously not for black tie.

    I think Foo mentioned earlier in the thread that these sort of events are for the women to stand out. I want to be as positively boring, toe the line, get out of the way as possible.

    I get crap from my friends because I usually wear American Apparel or Lulu Lemon workout cloths on one hand or boring suits on the other. I rather like not being a clown that sticks out.
     
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    My entire black tie rig not including the shoes cost me 300.
     
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    German efficiency. Sadly, we're fat and lazy here in the US.
     
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    I know. I'm a New Yorker. :p
     
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    I put my rig together for a similar price:
    $175 for a NWT Caruso peak lapel tux w/ flat front pants on eBay (seller didn't know what they had)
    $75 pre-owned Cheaney wholecut oxfords on eBay
    $40 new Drakes button in suspenders on eBay
    $25 NWOT David Donahue pique tux shirt new without tags on eBay
    $35 R Hanauer bow tie new at local store
    $15 Pre-owned MOP studs on eBay
    $10 Saks Silk white pocket square from Saks Off Fifth
    $115 for tux & shirt alterations


    I did splurge on some ST Dupont cufflinks to go with my rig but I don't count them in the tux cost cause I wear them to work often as well. I also just got a BB diamond tip tie to switch things up a bit. I also choose to go no-cumberbund, but I'll probably pick one up at some point.

    Anyone interested in the same Caruso tux deal I got, there are a few left in 40L and 42L- PM me and I can lead you to the mother lode. I had 2 other friends buy the same tux at the same price. I even thought about buying and flipping them here or on eBay but decided not to take the risk.
     
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