The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

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  1. Midnight Blue

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    Not really. There was a pretty wide range of shapes that were in style during this time.
     


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    The spectators would be period accurate, among younger men purposefully ignoring convention, but correct neither then, nor now. So, probably good call not wearing them. I think either peak or shawl will be fine. The wing collar is angular, so you can either offset it with shawl, or coordinate with it with peaks.
     
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    ^ Hmmm. I tend to think that a wing collar looks considerably better with peak lapels. In addition to pure aesthetics, the wing collar is a better match in terms of formality level with peak lapels.
     


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    On the topic of more formal, have any of you fellas worn or seen a white vest with black tie?

    I know it is listed as a dressier option in the guide, but worry it will look forced or costumey in practice.

    J
     


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    White vests were worn with BT in the 20s.
     


  6. ImTheGroom

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    Someone posted a photo of himself in one for the Met, either in this thread, or waywrn. It was opening night, I think he said, so that wis help you find it by date.
     


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    I wear these black MOP vintage studs and cufflinks with BT. Because they're on white gold and reflect quite a bit of light (they remind me of a walleye's eyes), I think they'd work as well on a white waistcoat. Because the studs are rather small, I had my wife "tighten" the buttonholes on my BB marcella shirt.
     


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    Wait what am I looking at? Is that two pairs of cufflinks and three studs? Or one pair of cufflinks, four studs, and a few collar buttons? How did she tighten the buttonholes while still allowing you to put the studs in? Just sewed them up a little?
     


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    A pair of double sided cuff links, four waistcoat studs, and three shirt studs.
     


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    InTheGroom is correct. I bought the set before I had a waistcoat. I tried finding a vintage waistcoat and was initially very excited to find this at an antique store for $30:
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    The only problem is that it's from the era a high-waisted trousers, and it's a couple of inches too short to cover my waistband. I ended up ordering this, made to specs with stud holes instead of buttons an in a moire silk that matches my bow tie: http://favourbrook.com/shop/product...stcoat-Shawl-Lapel-Black-Duchesse-Satin-FBM3/

    As for the buttonholes: yes, just a couple of small stitches to the top and bottom of each of them.
     


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    Wow, those are great, both the jacket and the vintage waistcoat.

    Can you just go to the FIT museum? I noticed a lot of the pictures in "Ivy Style" were from there.

    J
     


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    How do we feel about ivory colored waistcoats?

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    That is a beautiful dinner jacket. I can't get on the midnight blue bandwagon for some reason as it just never looks right to me. But that in black would be amazing, and is something I'm actually considering for my next dinner suit.
     


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    Pretty sweet from RL spring 2014; minus the pants...

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