The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

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  1. Butler

    Butler Senior member

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    Yes they can and are, POW has several tweed coats with them - Along the same line one can have Gauntlet cuffs made, if interested you can check my stuff out for those!
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    Forgive my ignorance, what is the difference between turnback and gauntlet?

    Turnback lies flat, and gauntlets flare out?

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    A turnback, as the name indicates, the sleeve material is turned back on itself - a gauntlet is a decorative extra piece, of varying designs,sewn onto the sleeve! :bigstar:
     


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    Ah, many thanks. Now to find a tailor who won't think I am insane.

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    Gents, are the trousers included with this white DJ appropriate as formalwear?

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    The belt loops make me feel the answer is no, but those are easily removed. Could the trousers then be worn as part of a stroller?

    My intuition tells me to avoid the ensemble altogether but I thought I'd check with the experts.
     


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    I can't tell if the trousers are braided or not. I'd be leery about buying from anyone who accompanies that DJ with belted trousers and a neck tie--but the DJ looks nice. If the trousers are braided and the waistband is high enough to hide beneath your cummerbund, I don't see why it couldn't work.

    Assuming this isn't your only tux, you could alway wear the DJ with your other trousers.
     
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    Not only are they not braided--they're pinstriped suit trousers. They will certainly not work.
     


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    Pretty much what I thought.

    Patterned trousers seem to be the norm with a stroller but these just don't look right to my eye. And I really don't know if it's worth the money for the jacket itself.
     


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    A white dinner jacket really only works for black tie events during the summer (also make sure it is cream or some sort of off-white vs. true white which will look terrible) and should be worn with traditional tuxedo trousers. Strictly speaking, I believe they should also only be worn to outdoor events (you can probably get away with it on a cruise ship) and in more tropical climates. You are likely to be in a small minority wearing a white dinner jacket in the summer in any event.
     


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    Am I correct in the assertion that burgundy bowtie and cummerbund is proper with a cream DJ?

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    Would a gauntlet used to mimic a turnback be considered a bit gauche? The first time I watched Dr. No, I noticed, and loved, the detail on Connery's dinner jacket in the scene at the card table, where we first meet Bond. I wanted to have silk turnback cuffs, on my DJ, but I was a little concerned about there not being enough length in the sleeve (my tailor was only about 75% sure he could make it work), and the lining is viscose, and I didn't really want to feature a synthetic fabric on the turnback. I thought about adding material to get the look I wanted, but decided not to invest any money in something I wasn't really sure about. At the time, I figured it could always be added later, or done on another jacket in the future.

    On the one hand, I figured it would be unnoticeable, unless someone was examining the lining of my jacket. On the other hand, I thought maybe this is just faking it, and a little offside.
     


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    Gauche is my middle name.

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    As we are discussing white dinner jackets and posting older pictures of white dinner jackets, here are my parents (second and fifth from left) on a Caribbean cruise in 1960, when everyone owned both white and black dinner jackets and when ships still looked like ships rather than looking like one of Saddam Hussein's palaces......

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