The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mafoofan, Nov 22, 2011.

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    While some may use BTG that way, I don't think that's how it's used here. For example, BTG really emphasises patent for shoes, but most here accept polished calf. In fact, I referenced BTG's shoe recommendations in a post where I was recommending calf.
     
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    ...conversely, I am not.

    That doesn't mean we both can't reference what is, as you said, a fine piece of research.
     
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    As I understand it, in the central european tradition, plain toe bluchers are actually considered the most formal shoe, and are worn with black and white tie. Personally I think a nice sleek toed pair like these polished up to a high shine would look smashing with black tie -

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    I'm sure they would.
     
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    I would like to learn more. Do you have a source?
     
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    Unfortunately, my source for this is half remembered stuff from style forum two or three years back. I suspect it came from a member called Fritzl, who was I think Austrian, and very knowledgeable about shoes in general. I'll see if I can find some specific posts.
     
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    One of the Morning Dress sites I've read mentions Austria, specifically, finding derbies/bluchers common with Morning Dress, and the Black Tie Blog mentioned it for evening wear in a post about the Austrian Ball Season. So, I've read this about Austria, specifically, on more than one occasion, but not seen it generalized to a broader European region. Not living in Europe, I can only relay what I've read elsewhere.
     
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    Yes by Central Europe I meant Austria-Hungary and surrounding sphere of influence.
     
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    Ah yes, the old Habsburg stomping grounds . . .
     
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    Montreal?

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    ACK! Get rid of that thing!

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    Ahhhhh. Much better.
     
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    Hey! I'm not the one who brought up "Habs"burg! :devil: And just to keep the thread from complete derailment, in anticipation of an upcoming black tie GTG in the Washington DC area next month, I got out my black, shawl lapel thrifted rig that was originally sold at a now defunct Baltimore area high end men's clothing retailer (Bernard Hill) and was admiring the "Made in Italy" tag in the coat. Then I noticed the cloth label indicated it was made by 'Mario Zegna'. Obviously one of the lesser lights if the Zegna family. :plain:
     
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    To continue to get back on track, I just added another event to my December Black Tie schedule - the grand opening of the Hard Rock Casino Vancouver. Sure, my buddy and I are likely the only ones to show up in Tuxes, but who doesn't want to walk around like Daniel Ocean?
     
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    I'd like to press my bow tie before a party tonight. Silk, adjustable. I'm thinking use the silk setting, and put a towel between the tie and the iron. Yes? No? Other?

    Also, windex on my patent leather? Saw it in other threads; seems to make sense. They're these ones, so I assume pretty cheap leather, if it can be even be called that:
    http://www.zappos.com/calvin-klein-guilford
     
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    a thick cotton drill or linen is normally used. Just use the weight of the iron for few second and lift and move to the next section. Do not slide the iron back and fort.
     

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