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The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mafoofan, Nov 22, 2011.

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  1. NORE

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  2. Fred H.

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    NYE at the Kennedy Center was truly a mixed bag. Quite a few in black tie. Many more in various states of disrespect (for the occasion). Not a patent pump anywhere to be seen. (Me included.)
     
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    Hey, Mr. Ranger, Sir! What's the source on these??

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    Answering my own question... Trianon

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    Trianon Cufflinks

    Really diggin' the Stingray / WG and the Hematite / MOP

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    I did my first black tie this year (having been an avid SF'er for about 2 years now) and had to get everything from scratch. The one norm I chose to depart from was dual vents instead of ventless.

    I'm fortunately tall and athletically thin, ventless looks and feels like a big wool condom draped over me. I had to really hunt an actual tux that had vents, but hunt and find I did and I'm glad I did. Note that I went the full monty on everything else - patent leather shoes (though with a subtle rolled cap toe instead of plain), cummerbund, tied my own bow tie (and wrestled like hell with it the first dozen times!), bib shirt with winged collar, etc.

    Nobody did, but I was fully prepared to present a reasonable rationale for my vents with anyone who pointed them out as a no-no, but - of course - half or more of the rest of the attendees weren't even wearing black, or even a tux, let alone concerned about vents.
     
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    X-Poast from WAYW. Sorry the pic doesn't give the greatest look at fit, but you get the idea. I also know that Foo is stewing somewhere due to the notch lapels. Oh well. :)

    Sartorio (Attolini) tux
    Zegna shirt
    J Press tie/square
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    State of black tie at a Lindy Hop New Year's Eve Party in Cincinnati, OH.

    Dress code was "Dress to impress!" Counting me four guys wore black tie, many girls dressed in evening/cocktail dresses they could dance with, numerous other guys in suits, some with ties some without. One guy wore a very nicely tailored tuxedo with peak lapels but for some reason finished it with a yellow tie and black and white spectators. I chalk it up to the swing aesthetic.

    Like one or two people wore jeans. Lindy hoppers are all over the place in terms of dress, but two of us had agreed ahead of time to wear black tie.

    Amongst the black tie wearers- all notch lapels except mine and yellow bow tie guy, one guy wore a four in hand tie and others wore pre-tie bowties with the waiter-style high buttoning satin vest or cummerbund. No one including me wore patent leather of any sort, I wore some park avenues. Most were in whatever their dancing shoes were.

    Pic attached- not very good quality, yeah yeah. Looks all right for being an hour or two into dancing, I reckon.

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    Well, maybe no patent; but Mrs.Trix and I were both there in our pumps, though hers were suede and mine were calf.

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    Are there any RTW options for a traditional-cut black vest other than BB?
     
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    Ede.
     
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    B.Nay still is still one of my favorite examples of black tie done right sans pumps
     
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    I recently acquired a classic tuxedo of my own (I’m 32 btw), just because I think it’s extremely stylish and I wanted one. I wore it on New Year’s Eve when out to dinner, moving on to one of the better clubs in town. I was the only guy there wearing a dinner suit. Was I overdressed? You betcha! But I felt like a million bucks and man oh man did the ladies look.

    The thing is, following the rules these days is actually breaking the rules. If you don’t wear a suit daily you could get by very well with a single black suit that you wear to formal events. Grab a white shirt and any tie and practically everyone would think you’re dressed to the nines. You don’t even necessarily have to wear a tie, any type of shoe that isn’t a running shoe goes (even running shoes are acceptable if you’re under 20 years old) and as long as your jeans are clean you can probably wear those too instead of the pants that actually go with the suit. THAT is the rule and personally, I don’t care for it that much.

    I probably will only have a handful (if that) of events in my life that qualifies as “proper” black tie. However, as the new rule makes you look like a clueless slob I’ve decided to go against the grain and wear my dinner suit as often as I can, even if (and it does) mean that I’ll be the only person wearing one.



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    I don’t really think the dinner suit would be such a hard sell to young people. It’s black and most young guys own black suits, bow ties (albeit pre-tied and very colorful) are becoming fairly popular around here and there is definitely a group of guys who is into “preppy” clothing that could very well move on to wearing tuxedos if it was marketed a bit more aggressively.
     
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    What is wrong with patent lace ups for black tie? I thought that was right?
     
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    “Patent leather? Have you read an issue of GQ in the past three or four years?”

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    Not a thing. Best with flat silk laces though. A pair is about $30 from Cleverley in London.
     
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    I love that clip. That is now my answer when people ask me why I'm wearing a tux, "It's after six." No other explanation needed.
     
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    photos of said laces?
     
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    Not black tie really, but I went to a festive drinks party between christmas and new year: a fairly casual affair but there was one old gent present (83 I think he said), in a velvet shawl-collared dinner/smoking jacket, grey chalk stripe flannels and old velvet slippers embroidered with his initials. He was the best dressed man there by a country mile but wore it like it was nothing, the most natural thing in the world. I look forward to being old and eccentric.
     

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