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The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mafoofan, Nov 22, 2011.

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  1. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I have seen this suit in person. IIRC, it is a polyester based brown worsted, not velvet.
     
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    Ah, my mistake. Still, I think bottle green could be fun (though not as your first and only dinner suit perhaps).
     
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    For the record, it can be velvet and polyester. Velvet is a weave, not a fabric. His jacket looks like velvet to me.
     
  5. FlyingMonkey

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    Reminscent of Bogart's in Casablanca...

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    I don't believe I've ever seen turnback cuffs on a jacket before.

    Very cool.
     
  7. marcodalondra

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    The Duke of Windsor had many jackets with turnback cuffs, including several odd dinner suits (e.g. lord of isle green tartan dinner suit). Prince Charles also spot some form time to time
     
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    Yes, I think that it's generally quite a British thing, as far as my limited knowledge of tailoring goes, as I've really only seen turnback cuffs on suits by H.Huntsman and such places.
     
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    They were popular on tuxedos in the 1960s and occasionally show up on the red carpet today. I've written a post on the topic that includes lots of examples.

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    Can they be put on normal jackets?

    I have a magnificent DJ that I fear doesn't have enough sleeve to let down.

    J
     
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    Yes they can and are, POW has several tweed coats with them - Along the same line one can have Gauntlet cuffs made, if interested you can check my stuff out for those!
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    Forgive my ignorance, what is the difference between turnback and gauntlet?

    Turnback lies flat, and gauntlets flare out?

    J
     
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    A turnback, as the name indicates, the sleeve material is turned back on itself - a gauntlet is a decorative extra piece, of varying designs,sewn onto the sleeve! :bigstar:
     
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    Ah, many thanks. Now to find a tailor who won't think I am insane.

    J
     
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    Gents, are the trousers included with this white DJ appropriate as formalwear?

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    The belt loops make me feel the answer is no, but those are easily removed. Could the trousers then be worn as part of a stroller?

    My intuition tells me to avoid the ensemble altogether but I thought I'd check with the experts.
     
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    I can't tell if the trousers are braided or not. I'd be leery about buying from anyone who accompanies that DJ with belted trousers and a neck tie--but the DJ looks nice. If the trousers are braided and the waistband is high enough to hide beneath your cummerbund, I don't see why it couldn't work.

    Assuming this isn't your only tux, you could alway wear the DJ with your other trousers.
     
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    Not only are they not braided--they're pinstriped suit trousers. They will certainly not work.
     
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    Pretty much what I thought.

    Patterned trousers seem to be the norm with a stroller but these just don't look right to my eye. And I really don't know if it's worth the money for the jacket itself.
     
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    A white dinner jacket really only works for black tie events during the summer (also make sure it is cream or some sort of off-white vs. true white which will look terrible) and should be worn with traditional tuxedo trousers. Strictly speaking, I believe they should also only be worn to outdoor events (you can probably get away with it on a cruise ship) and in more tropical climates. You are likely to be in a small minority wearing a white dinner jacket in the summer in any event.
     

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