The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jhcam8, Oct 2, 2011.

  1. Journeyman

    Journeyman Senior member

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    Just to confuse things further, it seems that there can be quite a bit of variation between different batches of cordovan.

    As an example, within the space of a week, I bought a pair of Carmina cognac cordovan boots from Unipair in Sth Korea, and a pair of Carmina cognac cordovan plain-toe bluchers from Skoaktiebolaget in Sweden. On both boxes, they were described as "cordovan cognac", but the shoes were considerably lighter than the boots.

    After a number of wears, a bit of exposure to rain and a coat of cordovan cream and a good brushing, the shoes have darkened a bit but they're still significantly lighter than the boots.

    I don't mind the difference, but I was surprised by just how different the colours were, despite both being referred to as cognac cordovan.
     


  2. NWTeal

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    Yup... The color I want is the lighter cognac or darker saddle. I guess the compromise is the saddle and let it patina. Does saddle patina to a darker color or just turn more orange?
     


  3. sacafotos

    sacafotos Senior member

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    My saddle shell Carminas are in between Alden Whiskey and (current) Ravello, skewing toward the former, but not by much:

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    Been wearing these as much as possible :slayer:
     
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    IME, Carmina saddle carmelizes with age. Gets like a toasted buttery color.
     


  5. Watchman1

    Watchman1 Senior member

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    Here are some pics of current Carmina Cognac And Saddle:

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    Gracias @Watchman1 . I think I've made my decision....
     


  7. Journeyman

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    Here are a couple of quick pics of my plain-toe bluchers and my punch captoe boots, both in cognac cordovan. The shoes are quite a bit lighter than the boots.

    They've both been exposed to rain lately and both are in need of a good brush, particularly the boots.

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    mdubs The Mayor of Aldensville

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    ^ Very nice, very nice indeed.

    I'd love to get a pair of Harlech boots and also a pair of Skye IIs (or the RL Lindricks) in the future.
     


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    mdubs The Mayor of Aldensville

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    Thank you! Bummer, I just organized a run of Skye II's in Whiskey Shell! :-(
     
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  11. jcman311

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    New to me Meermin Cognac shell with norvegese stitching. Previous owner must not have worn them a lot. I gave them a whole lot of brushing last night and wore them out today and saw all sorts of bloom coming from them, especially the creases. Love them.

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    The bloom coming from the crease. This was after wearing all of 5 minutes. Brushed it out afterwards.

    Is cognac the correct color here? Its japanese shell I believe
     


  12. MoosicPa

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    Very nice pick-up, Congrats!
     


  13. J One

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    Where did you order those from?? Is it the same as with Alden exotic colors of shell where you have to be added to an email list and wait until year 2020?
     


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    J One Senior member

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    I am curious, for all of you who have being able to compare Shell Cordovan from different manufacturers C&J, Carmina, Allen Edmonds and Alden how will they rank in terms of leather quality and quality of shoe construction.

    The reason I asked is because I am looking to acquire a pair of boots in shell, BB have the Peal & Co. captoes on sale which are made by CJ but even with the sale the price is about most of the Alden's and the AE Dalton's. I really want something that will last me for years to come so quality of materials and workmanship is key to that as well as service when is time to recraft. Style and name brand to me are irrelevant as long as the boot fits well.
     


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    jcman311, give them a small coat of Venetian cream and you'll see why it's the best one for shell cordovan. Cotton flannel is likely more gentle than brushes for buffing the hide, and won't scratch the dye off. Wear them in health!
     


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