The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jhcam8, Oct 2, 2011.

  1. Count de Monet

    Count de Monet Senior member

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    In my view, no and no. As to the former, my theory is that the aversion (of some) to wearing shell with suits is somehow tied to the association of shell with types of footwear some don't care to wear with suits, eg, boots, bluchers, lots of brogueing, double soles, etc. the link gets established in some folks' minds and, all of a sudden, there's a "rule" in their mind of "no shell with suits." But, such a policy would bar me of wearing my black shell punch cap oxfords (single sole), one of my suit stables. The only variable there is the type of leather. I find nothing about shell that inherently might disqualify it from suit use except possibly ..... (This leads to your latter question)

    ... does the way shell ages, ie the "roll" phenomenon, disqualify it from suit wear. I vote no. In my view, there is a large world out there beyond the bubble of Style Forum and in that world, gentlemen actually wear their shoes. Shoes that are actually worn develop charactoristics that are attractive to me, assuming they are well cared for. I find creases no more attractive or unattractive than shell rolls. They are both simply evidence of actual usage. Neither detracts from the appearance of an otherwise well cared for pair of shoes.
     
  2. VRaivio

    VRaivio Senior member

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    suitntieguy, the reason why old-school dressers and Menswear Rules guys don't like shell cordovan is because, back in the days, they were mainly worn by manual labourers who needed strong and durable footwear. Even when left uncared and beaten with an ugly stick, cordovan will outlast calf, more so in muddy or wet use. Shell also tends to have dry areas that cannot be smoothed out entirely or moistured with cream, and the wavy bends are likely to grow deeper if the pair isn't worn with shoe trees. As for people who are not style nerds, the most you can get out of them is "Nice shoes!" They don't know, don't care, don't notice. Just go with shell if you like it.
     
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    I can't detect a difference in formality between black calf Park Avenues and black shell Park Avenues. I strongly suspect that this because there is no difference.
     
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    mdubs The Mayor of Aldensville

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    That's a lot of shell!
     
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    Just delivered ebay purchase:

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    Any assistance about when these might have been made by Church's would be appreciated.

    They are in really great shape, but I'm looking forward to giving them a little TLC.

    AHS
     
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    xpost from Trickers - Cipresso shell
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    mdubs The Mayor of Aldensville

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  11. Shouldaville

    Shouldaville Senior member

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    A few Vass and C&J/RL shades of cigar shell (and one that is not supposed to be in this thread).

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    Well balanced and disciplined collection of a shade of brown shell cordovan :D
     
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    Thanks @NAMOR . I think that's enough darker brown shell for me. I still want one black shell boot, and your Valway may be a good candidate for that next year.
     
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    Except for the briefcases (which are bridle leather) everything else are Color #8 and Navy shell cordovan

    Happy new year! All the best for 2015

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