By the way, that list of shirtmakers, which was hopelessly mediocre (as are all Monsieur's lists), must be at least as old a grudge as you were decrying on FNB. If you only knew what I was going through personally at the time, I was counting bathroom breaks I was so busy. But a guy glued to the fora wouldn't know about THAT would he? At least aour cards are on the table so to speak, Manton. Are you joking or are you really bitter about that list? Because if you really are, that is a little sad.