Alright, Singapore Gents. I'm planning to start a shoe club here in Singapore (in fact, anything sartorial can be the order of the day) I've already sounded out some of the English shoe makers and the response thus far has been positive. If 'The Rake' is from Singapore I don't see how we should not have something to live up to it. There's a time for Flip flops and there's a time for a balmoral boot with beveled waists. PM me and lets make it happen and not let APEC steal the limelight from the REAL issues. Good luck.