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The poker tips and bragging thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by idfnl, May 25, 2010.

  1. GQgeek

    GQgeek Well-Known Member

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    ^^ yeah and short sessions are usually better. limit yourself to a couple hours. You ahve to be really self-aware in poker or you'll start bleeding money. For me, as soon as i hit 2.5 hours, my mind would start to wander and i'd start doing dumb shit. I think a lot of people don't have this awareness and it prevents them from winning consistently. Discipline is as much a part of the game as anything else.
     
  2. Nouveau Pauvre

    Nouveau Pauvre Well-Known Member

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    Thanks dudes, definitely not trying to make money on this, just need a new diversion. [​IMG]
     
  3. BDC2823

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    Easy solution to that is not to let it get to the river. When I know I have the best hand on the flop I bet hard. Most, who know the odds, bail. If they are praying for a card the worst thing you can do is make it easy on them by a min bet, pussy bet or worse a check.

    There are lots of variables here, type of game, your stack, his, etc - but for me this is a rule of thumb. Occasionally you'll get a tool that bets on whatever he has but the chances he'll hit are small. The objective here is to get, say 5 people, to fold down to 1 or 2. Then you're favorite.


    Oh I know. I do this and will get called and this shit happens. I like to bluff quite a bit when I feel weakness around me so maybe that has to do with getting big raises called. Dunno, just appears to always happen to me. I don't think I've played in over a year now.

    I remember my first time playing poker against other people besides friends. I hadn't played much but decided to play a $1-$2 table (I think, just remember the max bet was up to $12/person if everyone kept raising) at the Excalibur in Vegas. I get dealt rockets and i think i was on the button. It gets to me with only callers and I max raise. Everyone folds but one buy re-raises. So I do the same, etc. til the max. Flop is shit so I raise, he raises, etc. 4th street and river are the same. So I'm thinking this guy has something since he re-raised my raises since pre-flop to the max. Fucker turns over a 3-5 off suite to hit a straight. I look down at the flop again and see that he wasn't open ended and had to hit runner-runner to hit it and didn't have any pairs, flush draws, etc... I was pissed and gave him a stare down for staying in the whole time with such shit. I was new and only knew how to play but didn't know about no limit. I told my friend afterwards and he told me about the no limit tables. I vowed to never play a limit table ever again. Not exactly the 2 outer i described earlier but I still remember this one as it really pissed me off at the time.

    Play cash games instead of tourneys. Define your bankroll. Pick your stakes. Learn to play at that level. I'm not joking when I say that the game changes signicantly as you change stakes. Even small changes in stakes can give your tables a very different composition that should affect the way you play. Also, if you kept losing money on the turn you were probably not folding enough. Sometimes you have to fold that TP. It's strongest pre-flop. Also, post-flop you want to thin your opposition as early as possible whenever you can. This is easiest when you have position. If you have a decent hand and let people make it to fourth street and they beat you with a gutshot or something, often times, it was probably your fault, especially at low stakes where people play a very straightforward game and don't have much strategy.

    Really though, if people at your table are consistently going to the turn, you should be milking that shit cause they are playing with nothing most of the time.


    I would play cash games quite a bit because I always did well and won money in cash games. I got pretty good at knowing when to hold em and when to fold em. If I got to the river without making a nice bet to take down the pot, I either lost my bluff, called just to see the other persons hand even though I thought I was beat to get info (only if I could afford to and the pot wasn't big enough), or won. It's just I kept getting knocked out of tourneys or losing a big pot when I made a big raise (usually after making decent to big raises beforehand) when the other person had a 4% chance to hit their card. So I just got over poker.
     
  4. idfnl

    idfnl Well-Known Member

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    I remember my first time playing poker against other people besides friends. I hadn't played much but decided to play a $1-$2 table (I think, just remember the max bet was up to $12/person if everyone kept raising) at the Excalibur in Vegas. I get dealt rockets and i think i was on the button. It gets to me with only callers and I max raise. Everyone folds but one buy re-raises. So I do the same, etc. til the max. Flop is shit so I raise, he raises, etc. 4th street and river are the same. So I'm thinking this guy has something since he re-raised my raises since pre-flop to the max. Fucker turns over a 3-5 off suite to hit a straight. I look down at the flop again and see that he wasn't open ended and had to hit runner-runner to hit it and didn't have any pairs, flush draws, etc... I was pissed and gave him a stare down for staying in the whole time with such shit. I was new and only knew how to play but didn't know about no limit. I told my friend afterwards and he told me about the no limit tables. I vowed to never play a limit table ever again. Not exactly the 2 outer i described earlier but I still remember this one as it really pissed me off at the time.
    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] When I see pocket AA, KK or QQ the first thing I think is "I'm either going to win a small pot or lose a big one". Its not that hard to beat, all you need is someone to better a pair... while its hard to tear yourself away from them you cant be afraid to fold. Kenny Rogers...
     
  5. driveslowk

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    thread's getting too serious. Full Tilt Poker, $2/4 Hold'em Cash Games, 4 Players Board: Liverpool811 (SB): $352.90 supercute11 (BB): $1,094.10 the_little_rock (CO): $1,181.30 kelvin (Button): $1,161.40 Dealt to kelvin Q:heart: K:diamond: Pre-flop: (1 folds), kelvinraises to $14, (1 folds), supercute11 raises to $44, kelvin calls $30 Flop: ($94) 6:spade: T:heart: K:club: (2 Players) supercute11 bets $76, kelvin calls $76 Turn: ($246) 5:spade: (2 Players) supercute11 checks, kelvin checks River: ($246) K:spade: (2 Players) supercute11 checks, kelvin bets $140, supercute11 raises to $974.10 and is all-in, jphizz calls $834.10 Results: supercute11 Showed J:diamond: J:heart kelvin Showed Q:heart K:diamond kelvin wins $2,188.20 Played this horribly, also. I need to find my $25/$50 hand where I lost $5k [​IMG]
     
  6. Nouveau Pauvre

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    Dude you managed to play a hand where 5k was on the line?!
     
  7. driveslowk

    driveslowk Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I got it all in KK vs QQ pre-flop. QQ has about 18% to win.

    There are so many more interesting hands but I haven't played online in over a year I can't find any records.
     
  8. GQgeek

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    I would play cash games quite a bit because I always did well and won money in cash games. I got pretty good at knowing when to hold em and when to fold em. If I got to the river without making a nice bet to take down the pot, I either lost my bluff, called just to see the other persons hand even though I thought I was beat to get info (only if I could afford to and the pot wasn't big enough), or won. It's just I kept getting knocked out of tourneys or losing a big pot when I made a big raise (usually after making decent to big raises beforehand) when the other person had a 4% chance to hit their card. So I just got over poker.


    There's no nice way to say this so:
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    Ignoring all the issues in your post, at a very basic level, if you were winning at cash games and losing at tourneys, why would you ever play tourneys? [​IMG]
     
  9. idfnl

    idfnl Well-Known Member

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    There's no nice way to say this so:
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    Ignoring all the issues in your post, at a very basic level, if you were winning at cash games and losing at tourneys, why would you ever play tourneys? [​IMG]


    [​IMG]
     
  10. Superfluous Man

    Superfluous Man Well-Known Member

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    There's no nice way to say this so:
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    Ignoring all the issues in your post, at a very basic level, if you were winning at cash games and losing at tourneys, why would you ever play tourneys? [​IMG]


    He probably hasn't played enough hands to know if he is a winner in either. It takes like a six figure sample size before you can have any confidence in your win rate.
     
  11. BDC2823

    BDC2823 Well-Known Member

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    There's no nice way to say this so:
    (funny pic)

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    Ignoring all the issues in your post, at a very basic level, if you were winning at cash games and losing at tourneys, why would you ever play tourneys? [​IMG]


    Because I was playing for fun with money I didn't really care if I lost; playing with friends before going out for the night, in between softball games, charity tournaments, etc. If online, they were small stakes tourneys and I would have cash games going at the same time.

    He probably hasn't played enough hands to know if he is a winner in either. It takes like a six figure sample size before you can have any confidence in your win rate.

    This. Maybe also because with cash games I could just leave whenever and with tourneys I got bored after a couple hours and was ready to just get up, leave, and go have fun doing other stuff.
     
  12. sho'nuff

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    i used to play alot of poker at the LA asian casinos around here (those were my dark years). i have alot of stories. funny ones. bad ones. mostly at the end i just lose it all not at poker but at pai gow or pan 9 game that i was addicted to.

    i played alot of 3-6 and 4-8 at commerce and normandie. one of my memorable hands was at 7 card stud, i remember it exactly (lot of hands i remember exactly):

    i had rolled up 6s. the guy next to me had 3s rolled up. the last person on the other end of the table had pocket As (this was all revealed at end of hand of course).

    the betting was capped the first round and all 7 players stayed in. (lot of loose players at normandie, and it was 2-4 so it was loose), 4th street, couple people fell out, but still capped bet, 5th street 1 more person folded, bet/raise, and 6th street bet ( i was checking all the way, just slow playing that hand) and the river i get another 6 , the guy next to me gets his 3, and the last guy makes a AAA?? full house. the other person makes a straight.
    i check, four 3s bets, straight calls, Aces full raises, i call, four 3s reraises, straight calls, and the Aces full guy ( a tall black fella) stands up and yells at the top of his hand "what yo mofos got???!!! and opens his hands and reveals his aces full, and starts high fiving his guys next to him. i call, and call , straight of course folds.

    4 threes, gets all excited and says 'send it!" and shows the 4 threes and , then no one ever knew i had 4 6s, i say 'dam send it mofos!!" and everyone at the table was in a roar, it was like dam check this out , dam , dam! everyone was saying dam! the 4 three guy was very upset and was quiet but was like 'dam good hand wtf'
    the pot was like 250 -300 bux or so, it was only 2-4 and you can only cap it and at that time they didnt have jackpot instituted yet so it kind of sucked. just one story.

    ive won several jackpots at poker tables but they were always table shares. never hit it myself. but the table shares can be nice. one was like 450 bux each person table share because the jackpot was like 4500, but then it was during a redlight time where the jackpots were doubled.
    so forth.
    dont gamble pleas.e
     
  13. Pennglock

    Pennglock Well-Known Member

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    Small-stakes Styleforum Full Tilt game later tonight, anyone?
     
  14. Steve Smith

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    To younger poker players, poker means hold'em. The game is simple on the surface and is well suited for TV. Playing it is like watching paint dry.

    IMO it is much more interesting to play in a dealer's choice home game.
     
  15. LawrenceMD

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    To younger poker players, poker means hold'em. The game is simple on the surface and is well suited for TV. Playing it is like watching paint dry.

    IMO it is much more interesting to play in a dealer's choice home game.


    yeah i've never lost my stack quicker than getting schooled by players in omaha...
     
  16. idfnl

    idfnl Well-Known Member

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    To younger poker players, poker means hold'em. The game is simple on the surface and is well suited for TV. Playing it is like watching paint dry.

    IMO it is much more interesting to play in a dealer's choice home game.


    Thats my preference as well.

    Anyone want to host a low stakes game in DC?
     
  17. zalb916

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    I used to play a lot of NL hold 'em. I was reasonably solid and peaked when I played in the $10K buy-in Aussie Millions in 2008. My first table on day two was brutal. You can view it here:
    http://news.pokerpages.com/index.php...k=view&id=2843
    Mike Matusow two to my right. Kenna James on my left, and Kenny (Phuong) Tran two to my left. Brutal. I'm sandwiched between three big time pros and was lucky to get moved after only about an hour or so. I made it to the end of the second day and was on the bubble for cashing. It was a great experience, but I was really overwhelmed playing with pros. That was the end of my interest in big tournaments. I was out of my element, and it impacted my play.

    To younger poker players, poker means hold'em. The game is simple on the surface and is well suited for TV. Playing it is like watching paint dry.

    IMO it is much more interesting to play in a dealer's choice home game.


    After the tournament, I decided to dedicate myself to other games. I specialize in pot limit Omaha 8 now. I think the best advice for other players is to learn other games. You have a huge competitive advantage, because most players only understand hold 'em. There are so many other great games out there, and they all require very different types of knowledge.
     
  18. SpooPoker

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    Seriously, can we get a SF table going? Im only on Pokerstars though..
     
  19. idfnl

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    Seriously, can we get a SF table going? Im only on Pokerstars though..

    I'm sure we could, I'd consider it
     
  20. zalb916

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    Seriously, can we get a SF table going? Im only on Pokerstars though..

    I'm on Pokerstars too. I'd play some time.
     

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