I generally agree. A lot of what I see on the forum incorporates too many colors and patterns for my taste. Moreover, these colors and patterns are often too loud for me to appreciate. If I had to guess, the desire to pointedly express one's personality is to blame. I'm all for developing personal style, but maybe it would be better to rely on smaller details and interpretive choices to voice one's personality and stop trying to re-invent the wheel. I'm still trying to figure things out myself. Toward the end of college, I wanted to change the way I dressed, and discovered AAAC. I ditched all my designer stuff, and started wearing more classic, tailored clothes. But I don't think I put enough faith in the new format. I tied huge qaudruple-windsor knots, preferred bright pink or apple green super-spread collar shirts, and collected dozens of whimsical pocket squares and socks. I guess I didn't believe a 'shirt-and-tie'-based outfit could be interesting or creative enough without such bold strokes. It's taken a lot of time to become more comfortable with myself and my clothes. Now, if anything, I'm too boring and formulaic. Still, I don't see anything wrong with Bill's gun check in this regard. It's just a nice tweed in a classic pattern. I have no issue with wearing tweed or tweed-like jackets in the city. I figure, at the worst, I'm just dressing more casual that way. In a world where wearing any jacket is already a huge step-up in formality, this isn't necessarily a bad thing. I dont see anything wrong with a tweed jacket in the city either but I consider a cashmere or light weight wool with a tweed pattern to be optimal. Tweed doesnt mesh with the places youd go in the city. I think some force themselves to wear actual tweed because it was once done and they want to be authentic. However, i suspect if you gave the ancients their choice between tweed and cashmere, they'd've chosen cashmere. It depends what level your dress is at but everyone has wasted time and money to be different before they figured out how to do the "same" properly and indeed, better. I think Americans, even those that claim they are interested in propriety are much more color and pattern oriented than the English who are very much about cut and shape. It is always best to learn to do the basics better than everyone else and then branch out to form your own style. I think that developed style is both more solid and more genuine. If you were to take a sedate navy chhalk or pin striped suit and pair it with a white shirt, white pocket square and blue tie with small white woven pattern it would be enough of a departure to change to a boldly checked shirt, colorful tie and bright pocket squre. I think the sheer combinations possible with quite basic elements escapes us from time to time.