The perfect tuxedo except for one thing...

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  1. TimelesStyle

    TimelesStyle Senior member

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    The buttons are an easier fix than either of the others; no actual alterations are required. But as has also been stated, it's not "wrong" to have non-covered buttons on a tuxedo and RL does so on all of its lines; even a $5k+ RLPL tux will have them (unless made to order and specified otherwise).
     
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    Its going to be difficult to find fabric-covered buttons in the same fabric as the lapel facing.
     
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    He doesn't skip the gin just the vermouth, substituting vodka instead. An acceptable edit , the shaken part is more "controversial" :confused:
     
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    True, but I'm guessing you could get close enough that nobody could really tell the difference.
     
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    I disagree that this is an acceptable edit. It is such a departure; the vodka version does not even resemble the gin version.
     
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    Again, the gin part of the martini is the same, vermouth is not gin, that is what is substituted for vodka. It's called a Bradford martini. The vesper martini is quite flavorful, as it also include half a measure of lillet Blanc ( originally kina lillet) and lemon peal.
     
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    I see... I guess that is marginally better given how little vermouth people tend to put in their martinis anyway.
     
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    Just saying, even though I'm a pretty big Bond fan (the avatar is a giveaway), vodka martinis are a weak alternative. But, when you look that good, you can drink whatever the hell you want and pull it off. Even if it's shaken... :-|
     
  9. msulinski

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    Shaken isn't a big issue for me personally. I know non-cloudy cocktails (basically those not made with some kind of citrus juice) are supposed to be stirred to conserve the clearness of the drink. However, your cloudy, shaken martini or manhattan will turn clear again in less than 5 minutes.
     
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    It depends how you're built, but zero vents on a slim fitted jacket for me is a nightmare, to the extent I'm having a jacket with zero vents vented.
    If it concerns you buy a straight black jacket with a single vent, reconstruct it and have it silken (lapels, buttons and pants). It will cost more than $1000 (alot of tailoring) but you'll have your single vent.
     
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    And why wouldn't you simply go MTM at that point?
     
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    Whose martini lasts that long?
     
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    I was under the impression that this was essentially un-doable.
     
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    I don't know how log it takes to establish a "tradition". I own a Paul Stuart Tuxedo that is more than 40 years old. It has a single vent and
    is classical Ivy in cut.
     
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    :crackup: What any individual wants in his/her drink is 100% a matter of their own personal taste and desire. Absolutely ludicrous to shame a person in any way for their libation.
     

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