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The perfect tuxedo except for one thing...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by shnikies, Dec 3, 2012.

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  1. shnikies

    shnikies Active Member

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    THEY HAVE MOTHER BEEPING SIDE VENTS!!!!!!!! SB one button peak lapel with side vents. This seems to be very common in the sub $1000 range that I'm looking at. Is there a reason why these designers ruin a perfectly good tuxedo with side vents? Is it demand or is it somehow cheaper to make?
     
  2. aravenel

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    Because many people don't like non-vented jackets, which is traditional for a tuxedo, and side vents work better than single vents.
     
  3. shnikies

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    Any vents are counterintuitive to a tuxedo but I'm guessing a single vent is even less formal than side vents, right?
     
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    Because they're formal wear, not sport wear. And hence either no vent (more traditional) or side vents.
     
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  5. Despos

    Despos Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Not hard to close them, you would never know they had been there. For your other question, no they are not cheaper to make, it is easier and less time consuming to make a non vented jacket.

    Showing non vented jackets is less appealing to consumers and more risky for sellers and could result in a loss sale if the hips were tight and not enough outlet to alter.

    I have had side vents on every tuxedo I've had.
     
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    akatsuki Senior member

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    Black tie is a living hell basically at this point in world affairs. I've given up and am going to go Mr. Ned.
     
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    Honestly the PRL one with the double vents and the grosgrain trim looks quite nice! Especially during their semi-annual sale when it's ~$900. I would personally prefer a shawl collar number with grosgrain and midnight blue mohair but that's tough to procure for cheap...
     
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    As mentioned by other, side vents are much better than single-venting. May not be 100% correct, but I wouldn't sweat it. Feels better when sitting down compared to non-venting, and the jacket won't wrinkle that badly.
     
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    i like side vents for the comfort factor when sitting
     
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    I bought mine from Brooks Brothers per the other black tie thread with vox's advice and I had them sew up the vent. It was single though.

    Maybe these designs are all for the "creative black tie" events.
     
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    As suggested, get them sewn shut if they bother you, problem solved [​IMG]
     
  12. shnikies

    shnikies Active Member

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    You can really get tuxedo vents sewn shut without it looking bad?
     
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    Of course.

    Funny how the single vent is so derided when both the morning coat and evening tailcoat, the most formal forms of male dress in usage today, both feature single vents. The morning coat was even originally intended as "sport wear".
     
  14. Despos

    Despos Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Your point is irrelevant. Just look at the design of the garments you mention.
     
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    I thought vents, particular side vents, were difficult to close wityhout making it obvious?
     
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    just saw Dr. No again.

    Mr Bond wears his perfectly fitting tuxedo with side vents.

    that's all. carry on......
     
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    I hope a tailor can correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it just an extension of the side seam? Perhaps you would notice it in the lining, and not by much....
     
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    I have side vents on all my dinner coats. If you don't like them on your coat, have your tailor sew them shut.
     
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    Don't know why it would be obvious. Open the vents, hem and lining. Reshape the sides from the waist down to the hem and baste the sides together closing the vent. Do the same for the lining. Trim the extra cloth away leaving normal seams. Sew the side seams, finish the lining. It will be the same as if it were made this way originally except you may have a horizontal seam on the interior lining where the lining was cut at the top of the side vent. There is not much technical skill needed but you have to properly shape and fit the side seams to fit the the hips/seat.
     
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    He's baaaaaaaack.
     
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